# Mutated Poppy Weirdness

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutated-poppy-weirdness/28026
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [July 27, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutated-poppy-weirdness/28026 "2022-07-27T08:15:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![Gotdamnmiracle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gotdamnmiracle/32/7660_2.png) [@Gotdamnmiracle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gotdamnmiracle)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutated-poppy-weirdness/28026/1 "2022-07-27T08:15:57Z")

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It occurs to me how weird this is.

Is this the result of blob mutation? If so, why? No other plants appear to be.

Is this part of a different group, like the triffids perhaps? There’s currently no evidence of this.

Is this a holdover of something before proper plant growing? Why not just use poppies and turn that into opioids? If we have cannabis and meth production, why not proper opioids?

What’s the deal exactly? Seems weird. No other plants growing wild appear to be “mutated” and many are able to be grown on their own.

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### Author: ![NetSysFire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@NetSysFire](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NetSysFire)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutated-poppy-weirdness/28026/2 "2022-07-27T12:26:16Z")

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> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/53264>
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> \### Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
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> Apparently, …all poppies in New England mutated when the Cataclysm struck and there are no normal poppies anymore.
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> This is basically a minor lore oversight.
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> \### Solution you would like.
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> More kinds of poppies. Preferably, 70% normal poppies and 30% the mutated kind we already have.
> Also a new variety which is like the mutated one but much, much stronger. Extremely rare, only found in labs and maybe rarely near portals perhaps? Harvesting it might knock you unconscious for an extended period of time and the roots do more damage or even pull you underground. Also could make you drowsy and dazed even after you wake up.
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> \### Describe alternatives you have considered.
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> \_No response\_
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> \### Additional context
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> https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/toxic-dead-and-warped-biomes/27400/3
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> This is basically something I'd like to fix someday but there are other things that I am working on currently.

I have some local changes, which include a fix for above feature request, which I will file a PR for soon-ish. My solution to this would make the normal poppy yield less potent poppy buds. I have no ideas about chemicals, so I would just replace most mutated poppies with the non-mutated counterpart.

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### Author: ![Gotdamnmiracle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gotdamnmiracle/32/7660_2.png) [@Gotdamnmiracle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gotdamnmiracle)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutated-poppy-weirdness/28026/3 "2022-07-27T19:47:00Z")

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Awesome! I was gonna suggest, if not making the poppies a growable crop, then making the mutated poppy 100% a product of the triffids.

In the book triffids are harvested for their oils, so giving some of them high yield opioids wouldn’t be so far off. Could easily be a product made from the poison gland with some degree of chemistry skill.

Your solution is better though.

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### Author: ![Gotdamnmiracle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/gotdamnmiracle/32/7660_2.png) [@Gotdamnmiracle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gotdamnmiracle)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutated-poppy-weirdness/28026/4 "2022-07-27T19:50:09Z")

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As a small change I think you should go the other way- the normal poppy yields many buds (like other crops) to signify you planting several, but A LOT are required to turn them into proper heroine. Think roses and perfume or something. I think you may need several, but balance may be necessary.
