# Moving barrels and car engines

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moving-barrels-and-car-engines/9705>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [May 30, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moving-barrels-and-car-engines/9705 "2015-05-30T07:57:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![glenmack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9fc348/32.png) [@glenmack](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/glenmack)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moving-barrels-and-car-engines/9705/1 "2015-05-30T07:57:52Z")

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Could the things that are obviously too heavy to lift or bulky to be wielded be given a similar flag as furniture that would allow you to move them with the G command?

I’m not a coder but I imagine that would be simple in comparison to the other optional suggesion I’m about to make;

While dragging engines there should be a small (0.5%) chance to damage it. I think this would significantly improve the feel of the game. As the current / inventory movement tactics feel very gamey or almost an exploit.

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**Author:** ![Kadian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kadian/32/214_2.png) [@Kadian](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kadian)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 9:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moving-barrels-and-car-engines/9705/2 "2015-05-30T09:04:24Z")

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I want to see how you gonna push a big V8 or V12 Engine through dirt, sand, grass or even normal asphalt. That’s not a lot easier than picking the whole thing up, thanks to friction ; it can even get stuck if you \>push\< or \>pull\< it in dirt or sand.

Usually, \>if\< you move something bulky, heavy or big in our world, you use tools! 😛 Or, more precisely and in Cataclysm terms, small vehicles, like a trolley or handcart of some description. Cataclysm has several of those, \>and\< you can build your own, if they’re not big enough. Please be also aware that furniture is a lot lighter than an Engine. Just for comparison, a generic wardrobe might be around 70kg, an engine is double that.

edit:  
You do have a point though, at least barrels or drums and similar round objects are pretty easy to push, so that could be helpful, yes.