More Survival Tools + Modded MShock Tileset [Merged]

Random_dragon · 2015-12-29T20:41:42.000Z

Noctifer:

No, just question on tilesets since I might want to make sprites for my mods.

Ah, hope it goes well then. <3

Noctifer · 2015-12-29T20:43:11.000Z

It will be a while since I start since I have no idea how they work…

Random_dragon · 2015-12-29T20:55:32.000Z

Noctifer:

It will be a while since I start since I have no idea how they work…

Ah, I see. Let’s see…for the tile_config it’s just a straightforward list, so don’t forget how far along you are and it won’t cause problems.

For editing the tileset file itself, you want to keep track of the grid that defines what sections are perceived as a sprite or tile. If your image editor has a grid feature, easy enough to turn it on, and set the spacing as equal to the tileset’s sprite size, like 24x24 or 32x32. Then make sure it’s aligned right, as GIMP has occasionally derped that up when I switch from 24 to 32.

JazzGuru · 2016-01-02T02:55:07.000Z

Hey Random, I just popped into the game with the latest experimental, and guess what?

I found that other item, the one without a sprite. Lucky you!

Anyway, it’s the thermal electric suit…

Random_dragon · 2016-01-02T03:41:28.000Z

[quote=“JazzGuru, post:149, topic:9198”]Hey Random, I just popped into the game with the latest experimental, and guess what?

I found that other item, the one without a sprite. Lucky you!

Anyway, it’s the thermal electric suit… :)[/quote]

Derp. As I guessed. ALL the thermal electric gear seems to lack sprites. ;w;

Random_dragon · 2016-02-09T05:59:22.000Z

Well, due to…things, I am no longer a contributor to Cataclysm DDA. I’m still not sure yet if I’ll even continue being on here, after drama from multiple people, including and especially myself. But if I do, that leaves one piece of unfinished business.

More Survival Tools has every idea I thought up that was worth adding. Tank mod is effectively complete until Blaze starts deciding to PR stuff again. Medieval Stuff has been finished up at long last. Arcana mod is effectively fleshed out as I intended.

The MShock Modded tileset was effectively the only continuous, long-term part of the game I considered myself responsible for. I’m going to need to find someone to take up work on it instead.

Alternatively…I could keep spriting. I could offer updates to someone if they’re willing to submit it in my stead, but I don’t know if that will be acceptable. If Kevin objects to that, then so be it.

stk2008 · 2016-02-09T08:08:48.000Z

No mate dont go :(.

I love your work :(.

TheFlame52 · 2016-02-09T14:53:43.000Z

Please don’t go.
What is all this about? I haven’t seen anything. Could you fill me in?
DAMMIT NOT AGAIN

Random_dragon · 2016-02-09T17:00:48.000Z

[quote=“TheFlame52, post:153, topic:9198”]1. Please don’t go.
2. What is all this about? I haven’t seen anything. Could you fill me in?
3. DAMMIT NOT AGAIN[/quote]

See https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/15203 near the end.

TheFlame52 · 2016-02-09T18:09:51.000Z

Wow, I mean, your code had problems, but Kevin and co. were incredibly hostile for no reason. Is he always like that? When I’ve submitted things in the past I always got Rivet, and she was civil.

Why do we always have to disagree? Can’t we be friends?

Random_dragon · 2016-02-09T18:55:42.000Z

[quote=“TheFlame52, post:155, topic:9198”]Wow, I mean, your code had problems, but Kevin and co. were incredibly hostile for no reason. Is he always like that? When I’ve submitted things in the past I always got Rivet, and she was civil.

Why do we always have to disagree? Can’t we be friends?[/quote]

As much as I’d like to say it was for no reason, there was additional context for this. https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/15182

EDIT: Linked to the wrong thing. It was an issue, not a PR.

TheFlame52 · 2016-02-09T19:04:37.000Z

But that was just an ordinary conversation… No anger or insults or anything… What shitty attitude is Kevin talking about? I see nothing, I have seen nothing. You’re a nice person.

Malkeus · 2016-02-09T19:06:36.000Z

[quote=“TheFlame52, post:155, topic:9198”]Wow, I mean, your code had problems, but Kevin and co. were incredibly hostile for no reason. Is he always like that? When I’ve submitted things in the past I always got Rivet, and she was civil.

Why do we always have to disagree? Can’t we be friends?[/quote]

No, he is not ‘always like that’. It took a long while to get to the point of the ‘final straw’. If you know the adage about the ‘straw that broke the camels back’, you know that final straw doesn’t have to be a big one to finally overwhelm the camel, it just has to be enough.

I like you Random_Dragon. You’re a fixture here on the boards and I personally found your antics on github amusing, but I didn’t have to work with you. I hope you stay around and keep contributing. Your work will stand on it’s own merits and the good stuff always makes it into the game eventually. Look at what’s happening with Medieval Stuff right now. There’s more freedom here on the boards, no need to push anything through a committee.

Random_dragon · 2016-02-09T19:08:24.000Z

I was snarky about it, and it wasn’t the first time I’d been so. >_>

And to be honest…yeah. It had been going on for a while. The frustrating part was that it wasn’t 100% just me contributing to that clusterfuck.

TheFlame52 · 2016-02-09T19:09:04.000Z

So just don’t contribute for a while, I guess?

Random_dragon · 2016-02-09T19:34:39.000Z

For a while, if not longer.

BeerBeer · 2016-02-10T09:20:48.000Z

Well, I do find you a bit spammy, Dragon. Your emoticons often make no sense to me either. BUT. You are not evil or particularly narcissistic however, which is always a plus. Something had pissed off Kevin (possibly a lot of things combined) and you subconsciously failed or refused to acknowledge it, possibly for the dislike of accepting blame for something you weren’t responsible of. Do you see the conflict? He was already agitated, and you didn’t respond to it in a calming way. Only a few people would have. Kevin is also the head honcho, and you just don’t start challenging the chief in front of people and expect it to end in anything but further conflict, no matter how right you are. The management cannot see things through the eyes of everyone who works for them, not all of the time. At some point anyone who is placed in charge gets tired of explanations and failure analyses. It’s not fair. It’s human. And it must be accepted. When you end up in front of an unreasonable or a particularly demanding boss, you can only ask him “What is expected of me? What do you want me to do?” and after you get an answer to that, your only two reply choices are “I can do that” or “I’m not able to do that.” Further choices are to try to provide a working alternative to the problem at hand, or try being in a boss position yourself. There’s also the skill of “pre-emptive walking-away” before emotional conflict even occurs, but that foresight takes potentially decades to develop and master.

There is no blame to put on anyone here. We are all different sorts of animals, living under different conditions, states, pressures and circumstances, and sometimes things just collide. Just… don’t stab yourself in the heart because of it.

Random_dragon · 2016-02-10T16:11:37.000Z

I have admitted to overreacting and snarking about it, yes.

JazzGuru · 2016-04-19T14:03:14.000Z

Wow, I’ve been away and didn’t realiise any of this had happened.

I’ve found a few things that don’t have sprites in this awesome tileset, but I don’t know whether it’s worth listing them here now, or not…

Valiant · 2016-04-19T16:44:49.000Z

It seems that MShock have returned to working on his tileset (https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/16134) and (https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/16209).