More Drugs!

[Rivet]

I feel compelled to post in this thread to say that:

1. I fully support the inclusion of this mod in the main branch.

2. Anything that adds more options and toys to the game is heading in the right direction.

But most of all:

3. The title of this thread is something I can agree with, within Cataclysm and without.

On a related note, am I the only one that thinks it odd that all the drugs in Cataclysm come by the fistful? Seriously, who keeps their illicit adult party favors just lying around loose like that? It seems to me that it would make a lot more sense if drugs came in plastic bags by default.

[TheGrifter]

Sounds a bit Binding of Isaac-ish with the unindentified pills. Well, since it takes a decent cooking skill to cook up the good stuff, I’d presume you’d know what it was. Even hicks can cook up incredibly unhealthy one jug meth.
And about containers for the drugs, I was looking into that. I went in, and tried to add plastic bag containers to the drugs, but alas, it does not seem to register. You snort it all up and then there’s no bag. Guess you snorted the bag.

And I’d love for the mod to be included in the main branch, but Github confuses me. I wish it were all JSON files. It’d be way easier.

[TheGrifter]

Rivet, I got it to work. Drugs that spawn now spawn in plastic bags. Good idea, man. Most drugs are now manufacturable. Ether is made with bleach and alcohol, a bit of a lie, but there’s acceptable breaks from reality, I guess. I added a recipe based on something Ffnill said at the end of page 2, a derivative of Marloss berries called “Bliss”.

And much apologies to Glyphgraph and Slax, as at the moment, as much as I’d love to manipulate hallucinations, I can’t figure it out, and duration is the same boat.

Thanks for necroing the thread, Clayton. I’d not have made the expansion if you hadn’t.

[system]

The only drugs I’m currently on are Thorazine “for my ‘mild’ schizophrenia” and some sleeping medication.

Now if I stop taking my Thorazine after having took it for a while shit gets real. If I haven’t been taking it shit dies down some, but the ‘hallucinations’ are constant while being reduced.

So, I want drug symbiosis. So I can smoke crack, weed, speed, threed, greed, dope, and croppah.

[Zaweri_Runewright]

I think there also ought to be Krokodil craftable from codeine, when you can’t find oxycodone. But it should do like twenty damage to your arm every time you use it to simulate the gangrene.

AFAIK Homemade Krokodil is made out of Heroin and Eye drops.

[DWC]

Krokodil is desomorphine, they make it from codine and iodine and some other crap, wikipedia says it’s traditionally made from just codine and thionyl chloride, which is in some types of lithium batteries. It’s something of a desperate cheap substitute for heroin. Afaik, Krokodil only started to become popular with junkies when the heroin supply started to dry up in Russia from the war in Afghanistan messing with the supply chain.

So, in the game it would be codine and batteries? Maybe add in other ingredients if it’s a full blown drug mod.

[Rivet]

The synthesis of desomorphine (krokodil) is a lot more complicated than that.
It’s actually pretty similar in terms of manufacture to the synthesis used to produce nazi-style methamphetamine (the redneck crack that’s all over the American midwest) so whatever recipe you’re using to simulate bathtub meth production could be altered to simply utilize codeine as its base component instead of pseudoephedrine or whatever. What makes krokodil so nasty is the fact that it’s usually so impure. Desomorphine that’s been properly produced and purified is actually easier on the body that morphine. The gangrene that Russian junkies often end up with is usually just severely advanced cotton fever. Junkies aren’t generally very good about seeing the doctor about these things so it advances until pieces start falling off.

[DWC]

Yeah, the tissue damage from krokodil is from when the junkie misses the vien. Since viens get collapsed on junkies, it’s just sort of an inevitable state from constant use, not so much something that will happen with the first dose.

So, in game terms, once a player becomes addicted there would be a random change that a dose would maybe cause bite-like wounds and damage a random body part (since junkies can and will inject wherever they can, not just their arm). Not sure if the game is coded for damage-causing items yet. I drank some bleach on accident and I seem to remember it just made me kinda bummed out.

[Zaweri_Runewright]

The mod is not working for me, debug notepad just says “item_factory.cpp[780]: Received unrecognized iuse function PKILL4, using iuse::none instead”.

[system]

Lets add cryooxydioline, basically liquid nitrogen when exposed to air. Great for grenades! Also it would cool the player down to ‘freezing’ if drank.

Double whammy!

[TheGrifter]

Duly noted. I’m working on rewriting the whole crafting system. Matches, iodine, codeine is going to be the Krokodil recipe.
At some point, matches will be refinable into red phosphorus which will allow you to craft purer meth than just the “One Jug” method. Currently, only the shake and bake method of making meth is actually accurate to reality. Dayquil, aspirin, and adderall? Makes no sense. In making meth, you use the dayquil for the pseudoephedrine. You use the matches for the red phosphorus. You use the batteries for lithium. Aspirin has no place in a meth recipe.

And yes, damage causing objects are in a bit of a no-man’s land currently. I really wish the coders would fix it so that items can have multiple “USE_ACTIONS” or cause damage. I know that items can heal, so it’s got to be possible to do it in reverse. That’d really be a help if the coders would fix the goddamned JSON files so I don’t have to bother with compiling or dealing with CPP gibberish that I have absolutely no understanding of. But I digress. I’ve moved on from a worthless ideas guy to a modder, so I’m doing my damndest to give this game the debaucherific features it needs. And with that, I’ve finished the Krokodil recipe. Not sure if I made it addictive enough, but it sure is unhealthy. HOWEVER, it’s low enough cooking level for it to be a decent trade off if you can’t find heroin and need a quick fix.

I REALLY need the programmers to expand acddiction CPP and disease CPP and monster CPP to JSON files, if I’m gonna really elaborate this sort of thing, though. But I’m making damn good progress, if I may say so myself. Version 5 is out. Mess around in Debug to find out all that’s been added, and there’s a lot to find. Mess around with the professions. I’ve tried to balance things. Hope you like them. I sure did like it making this mod.

Give it a download, if you like. I’ve worked a good bit on it.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/cataclysmfearan/files/Cataclysm%20Fear%20And%20Loathing%20More%20Drugs%20Mod%20V5.rar/download

[TheGrifter]

Zaweri, the new version should work. I must have misplaced a
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somewhere, and botched that bit. The new version, V5 works like a charm.

[Zaweri_Runewright]

EDIT: Not working, still the same error :(…

[ClaytonRISING]

I think you should be able to dip your cigs in liquid codeine…

Come on ;D

[Slax]

Hey ho, let’s not forget the wonders of nature. Perhaps new skills, botany (plant identification!) and chemistry (SCIENCE!) could find a home. Mix a little of this, dry some of that, let it all soak in some distilled water, aaaaand… voilà! It, uh… well, I’m sure it’ll do something.

[TheGrifter]

Ugh… I’ve made the mistake of trying to update it to the bleeding edge. I’m still trying to convert the latest to the most recent stable build, but damn. Demoralizing.

[TheGrifter]

Latest update is stable, but I’m running out of ideas. Trying to create fallout drugs, but you can’t really have Psycho without having a drug that creates a “to hit” bonus, and I have no clue how to. Anyone with any ideas, I’d love to hear them. I want as much community contribution as possible. Steal my code, incorporate it in your mod, the game, whatever. Open source as hell. I just wish modding was more accessible.

[KA101]

FWIW some of the Martial Arts give small but noticeable bonuses to to-hit, damage, and attack speed. I think those are actually coded as diseases, in case that helps.

[TheGrifter]

How can I make a drug give a disease? I know they can give traits, like mutagen. And I know those traits can give positive health. So there’s no good reason why a trait can’t give negative health.
I wish traits were JSON files. I hate compiling. It’s such a damned chore. The code is still mostly greek to me.

[KA101]

I don’t really know. But I know that booze/painkillers give X amount of Drunk/PKILL# respectively.