# Mods causing startup crashes

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [December 20, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532 "2020-12-20T09:31:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![zantanzuken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zantanzuken/32/10325_2.png) [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/1 "2020-12-20T09:31:19Z")

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just putting this here as a ‘wait what?’ but i was having issues with the current version loading up to a black screen until i removed 3 mods

… two of which are yeaokaywhatever:  
uekibati\_mod: which had something to do with pots for growing things  
Whaley\_Hair\_&\_Tattoo: self explanitory

but the third mod that was making it crash was dda, as in the folder that just contains the JSON that activates the core content. whot?

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/2 "2020-12-20T09:35:27Z")

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You are probably using incompatible game and mod version. You need to fix mods to make them compatible with your game version.

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**Author:** ![zantanzuken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zantanzuken/32/10325_2.png) [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/3 "2020-12-20T09:36:37Z")

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yes i realize that, which is why i was removing mods to get it to work again.

but why was dda, which is basically a mod included in the main game, one of the issues?

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**Author:** ![Fris0uman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fris0uman/32/8607_2.png) [@Fris0uman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fris0uman)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/4 "2020-12-20T12:55:54Z")

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No way to tell without seeing the actual error message.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/5 "2020-12-20T17:44:57Z")

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Perhaps you had a cataclysm binary that doesn’t match the version of the json folder? I get a similar result if I check out a different version of CDDA from git and forget to recompille the binary to match.

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**Author:** ![zantanzuken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zantanzuken/32/10325_2.png) [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/6 "2020-12-20T18:19:47Z")

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the debug log: (edited every @ because the forum thinks i’m trying to @ people.)

> **debug**
>
> 01:20:46.959 : Starting log.  
> 01:20:46.959 INFO : Cataclysm DDA version 0.E-8333-gf4ad3b9  
> 01:20:46.963 INFO : [main] C locale set to C  
> 01:20:46.963 INFO : [main] C++ locale set to C  
> 01:20:46.963 INFO : SDL version used during compile is 2.0.5  
> 01:20:46.963 INFO : SDL version used during linking and in runtime is 2.0.5  
> 01:20:47.091 WARNING : opendir [./sound/] failed with “No such file or directory”.  
> 01:20:47.427 INFO : Number of render drivers on your system: 4  
> 01:20:47.427 INFO : Render driver: 0/direct3d  
> 01:20:47.427 INFO : Render driver: 1/direct3d11  
> 01:20:47.427 INFO : Render driver: 2/opengl  
> 01:20:47.427 INFO : Render driver: 3/software  
> 01:20:47.430 INFO : [options] C locale set to C  
> 01:20:47.430 INFO : [options] C++ locale set to C  
> 01:20:47.449 INFO : Active renderer: 0/direct3d  
> 01:20:47.704 INFO : USE\_COLOR\_MODULATED\_TEXTURES is set to 0  
> 01:20:47.713 INFO : Language is set to: ‘en’  
> 01:20:47.713 INFO : [translations] C locale set to English\_United States.1252  
> 01:20:47.713 INFO : [translations] C++ locale set to C  
> 01:20:47.962 ERROR : (error message will follow backtrace)  
> #0  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x6a5996[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x2a5996]),  
> (libbacktrace: Z21debug\_write\_backtraceRSo+0x56 @ 0x6a5996),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x6a5996 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #1  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x6a63d6[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x2a63d6]),  
> (libbacktrace: Z8DebugLog10DebugLevel10DebugClass+0x2f6 @ 0x6a63d6),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x6a63d6 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #2  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x6ab120[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x2ab120]),  
> (libbacktrace: Z12realDebugmsgPKcS0\_S0\_RKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x50 @ 0x6ab120),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x6ab120 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #3  
> (dbghelp: IMG\_LoadWEBP\_RW+0x11e074 @ 0x1473364[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x1073364]),  
> (libbacktrace: Z12realDebugmsgIJPKcEEvS1\_S1\_S1\_S1\_DpOT\_+0x344 @ 0x1473364),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x1473364 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #4  
> (dbghelp: @ 0xc414ac[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x8414ac]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN11mod\_manager12load\_modfileERK10JsonObjectRKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x1dc @ 0xc414ac),  
> (libbacktrace: 0xc414ac [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #5  
> (dbghelp: @ 0xc4237c[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x84237c]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZZN11mod\_manager13load\_mod\_infoERKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEEENKUlR6JsonInE\_clES9\_+0xac @ 0xc4237c),  
> (libbacktrace: 0xc4237c [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #6  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x566157[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x166157]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZNSt17\_Function\_handlerIFvRSiEZ28read\_from\_file\_optional\_jsonRKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEERKSt8functionIFvR6JsonInEEEUlS0\_E\_E9\_M\_invokeERKSt9\_Any\_dataS0\_+0x87 @ 0x566157),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x566157 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #7  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x56a5d3[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x16a5d3]),  
> (libbacktrace: Z14read\_from\_fileRKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEERKSt8functionIFvRSiEE+0x143 @ 0x56a5d3),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x56a5d3 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #8  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x56a96d[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x16a96d]),  
> (libbacktrace: Z28read\_from\_file\_optional\_jsonRKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEERKSt8functionIFvR6JsonInEE+0x6d @ 0x56a96d),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x56a96d [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #9  
> (dbghelp: @ 0xc3e653[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x83e653]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN11mod\_manager13load\_mod\_infoERKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x83 @ 0xc3e653),  
> (libbacktrace: 0xc3e653 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #10  
> (dbghelp: @ 0xc3ea2b[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x83ea2b]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN11mod\_manager14load\_mods\_fromERKNSt7\_\_cxx1112basic\_stringIcSt11char\_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x4b @ 0xc3ea2b),  
> (libbacktrace: 0xc3ea2b [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #11  
> (dbghelp: @ 0xc3ff9d[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x83ff9d]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN11mod\_manager16refresh\_mod\_listEv+0xcd @ 0xc3ff9d),  
> (libbacktrace: 0xc3ff9d [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #12  
> (dbghelp: @ 0xc44265[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x844265]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN11mod\_managerC2Ev+0xd5 @ 0xc44265),  
> (libbacktrace: 0xc44265 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #13  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x11a66f9[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0xda66f9]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN12worldfactoryC2Ev+0x79 @ 0x11a66f9),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x11a66f9 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #14  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x7e64b7[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x3e64b7]),  
> (libbacktrace: ZN4gameC1Ev+0x957 @ 0x7e64b7),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x7e64b7 [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #15  
> (dbghelp: IMG\_LoadWEBP\_RW+0x7c68ba @ 0x1b1bbaa[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x171bbaa]),  
> (libbacktrace: main+0x106a @ 0x1b1bbaa),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x1b1bbaa [unknown src]:0 [unknown func]),  
> #16  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x4013ed[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x13ed]),  
> (libbacktrace: _tmainCRTStartup+0x23d @ 0x4013ed),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x4013ed /home/narc/src/mxe/tmp-gcc-x86\_64-w64-mingw32.static/gcc-5.4.0.build_/mingw-w64-v5.0.2/mingw-w64-crt/crt/crtexe.c:336 \__tmainCRTStartup),  
> #17  
> (dbghelp: @ 0x4014fb[cataclysm-tiles.exe+0x14fb]),  
> (libbacktrace: WinMainCRTStartup+0x1b @ 0x4014fb),  
> (libbacktrace: 0x4014fb /home/narc/src/mxe/tmp-gcc-x86\_64-w64-mingw32.static/gcc-5.4.0.build_/mingw-w64-v5.0.2/mingw-w64-crt/crt/crtexe.c:186 WinMainCRTStartup),  
> #18  
> (dbghelp: BaseThreadInitThunk+0x14 @ 0x7ffa89c97c24[KERNEL32.DLL+0x17c24]),  
> (backtrace\_syminfo failed: errno = -1, msg = no symbol table in PE/COFF executable),  
> (backtrace\_pcinfo failed: errno = -1, msg = no debug info in PE/COFF executable),  
> #19  
> (dbghelp: RtlUserThreadStart+0x21 @ 0x7ffa8af2d4d1[ntdll.dll+0x6d4d1]),  
> (backtrace\_syminfo failed: errno = -1, msg = no symbol table in PE/COFF executable),  
> (backtrace\_pcinfo failed: errno = -1, msg = no debug info in PE/COFF executable),  
> Backtrace emission took 1 seconds.  
> (continued from above) ERROR : src/mod\_manager.cpp:216 [void mod\_manager::load\_modfile(const JsonObject&, const string&)] there is already a mod with ident dda  
> 01:20:52.390 : Log shutdown.

and the .json that caused it: (worked just fine after i removed it)

> **.json**
>
> [  
> {  
> “type”: “MOD\_INFO”,  
> “id”: “dda”,  
> “name”: “Dark Days Ahead”,  
> “description”: “Core content for Cataclysm-DDA”,  
> “category”: “content”,  
> “core”: true,  
> “path”: “…/…/json”,  
> “legacy”: “…/…/legacy”  
> }  
> ]

the ‘problem’ its seemingly coming across is that ‘theres already a dda’, except the .json just redirects it to the existing dda.

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**Author:** ![Beetlecat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/beetlecat/32/1305_2.png) [@Beetlecat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Beetlecat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/7 "2020-12-20T18:49:57Z")

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I’m getting that black screen too-- unintuitively, can you hit space a couple/few times and does it eventually go to the main screen?

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**Author:** ![zantanzuken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zantanzuken/32/10325_2.png) [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mods-causing-startup-crashes/25532/8 "2020-12-20T19:02:04Z")

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mine wasnt, no, but after i checked the debug a few times to see which mods were causing it (namely, those listed above, they usually came at the end of the debug log so i just removed them one by one) it worked. try it.