[Mod][5.2] XProfessions

Enke · 2014-02-23T16:54:34.000Z

Update: Version 4.5-b

The next in the string of (Un)Nethack updates, this one adds Healer, Knight, and Monk. The knight gets a Zweihander. Also, some professions have been rebalanced.

warforcer · 2014-02-24T04:13:02.000Z

your mod is fantastic. love the descriptions and functionality. im loving slashing zombies with my improvised sword as the barbarian. trail of carnage before my inevitable doom! thanks for your efforts!

Enke · 2014-02-24T22:26:53.000Z

[quote=“warforcer, post:12, topic:5174”]your mod is fantastic. love the descriptions and functionality. im loving slashing zombies with my improvised sword as the barbarian. trail of carnage before my inevitable doom! thanks for your efforts![/quote]Thanks! I’ll keep working on it, although the pace might be a bit slower because of school papers.

Enke · 2014-02-27T23:52:28.000Z

Update: Version 4.5-c

Another Nethack update! This one adds the priest, ranger, rogue, and samurai.

Sorry this took so long to get out. I had some interference from school. My apologies. Version 4.5-d will probably come out sometime this weekend. After that, I’m not sure what I’ll do. I’ll definitely put in the Terminator, and probably myself as a little easter egg. Other than that, I’m not sure.

kevin.granade · 2014-03-01T05:30:38.000Z

This is in no way hostile, just FYI. I’m pretty sure the CC-BY-SA license of DDA requires mods to also be CC-BY-SA licensed.
(I would have MUCH preferred GPLv3 as well)

Enke · 2014-03-01T23:26:27.000Z

[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:15, topic:5174”]This is in no way hostile, just FYI. I’m pretty sure the CC-BY-SA license of DDA requires mods to also be CC-BY-SA licensed.
(I would have MUCH preferred GPLv3 as well)[/quote]
Huh. Is it possible for me to change it?

Enke · 2014-03-27T01:18:15.000Z

To those who use this mod, I apologise for the large delay in updates. I had too much on my palette.

Version 4.5-d: Tourist, Wizard, Valkyrie added
Version 4.6: T-1000 added

Version 5.0: Re-Licensed to CC-BY-SA

Up next: Detective, Guardbot, Lion Tamer?

CIB · 2014-03-27T22:44:46.000Z

Kevin Granade:

This is in no way hostile, just FYI. I’m pretty sure the CC-BY-SA license of DDA requires mods to also be CC-BY-SA licensed.

Don’t think so, actually. A mod is just a bunch of independent text files, after all. It is theoretically possible to implement a new game licensed under a different license that can load the mod. Suggesting that because CDDA can load the mod, it must be licensed under the same license, is comparable to suggesting that because MS word is released under proprietary license, so must all files that can be opened by it.

EDIT: You could argue that the item IDs and other string identifiers are unique to CDDA and using them in your mod constitutes a “derivative work”. But I don’t think anyone in their right mind would actually try to enforce such a thing, so I don’t think that constitutes a practically relevant reason to license your mod CC-BY-SA. I mean, people have gotten away with complete reimplementations of proprietary games that can make use of the original game content files, and I don’t see why we as an open source project should be any more stingy about the matter.

Enke · 2014-03-27T22:59:35.000Z

CIB:

[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:15, topic:5174”]This is in no way hostile, just FYI. I’m pretty sure the CC-BY-SA license of DDA requires mods to also be CC-BY-SA licensed.

Don’t think so, actually. A mod is just a bunch of independent text files, after all. It is theoretically possible to implement a new game licensed under a different license that can load the mod. Suggesting that because CDDA can load the mod, it must be licensed under the same license, is comparable to suggesting that because MS word is released under proprietary license, so must all files that can be opened by it.

EDIT: You could argue that the item IDs and other string identifiers are unique to CDDA and using them in your mod constitutes a “derivative work”. But I don’t think anyone in their right mind would actually try to enforce such a thing, so I don’t think that constitutes a practically relevant reason to license your mod CC-BY-SA. I mean, people have gotten away with complete reimplementations of proprietary games that can make use of the original game content files, and I don’t see why we as an open source project should be any more stingy about the matter.[/quote]
Well great. Now I’m really confused…

CIB · 2014-03-27T23:10:28.000Z

Enke:

Well great. Now I’m really confused…

Yeah, we all are. Copyright law is broken, and nobody really has any clue how a court would decide in practice. Feel free to go with CC-BY-SA, it’s a decent license for mods(unlike source code). I just wanted to debunk the idea that you have to do so.

Enke · 2014-03-28T00:44:14.000Z

CIB:

[quote=“Enke, post:19, topic:5174”]Well great. Now I’m really confused…

Yeah, we all are. Copyright law is broken, and nobody really has any clue how a court would decide in practice. Feel free to go with CC-BY-SA, it’s a decent license for mods(unlike source code). I just wanted to debunk the idea that you have to do so.[/quote]
Okay.

Enke · 2014-03-30T14:26:55.000Z

Update: Version 5.1

Adds: Bionic Guard, Flasher, and Average Joe

Squirrel-Warrior · 2014-03-31T08:38:12.000Z

Hello dear mod arthur.
There is a profession that is missing from your fine mod.
Its the Rifle Hunter one, I would greatly appreciate it if re-added it.

Enke · 2014-03-31T22:23:28.000Z

[quote=“Squirrel-Warrior, post:23, topic:5174”]Hello dear mod arthur.
There is a profession that is missing from your fine mod.
Its the Rifle Hunter one, I would greatly appreciate it if re-added it.[/quote]
Should be fixed now.
Enjoy!

Alpha · 2014-03-31T23:52:04.000Z

Id just like to thank you for the great work on this mod, ive found it thoroughly enjoyable, ive found little in the way of bugs, the only suggestion id like to make is to add a marine sniper or former marine sniper.

Enke · 2014-04-01T00:50:59.000Z

Alpha:

Id just like to thank you for the great work on this mod, ive found it thoroughly enjoyable, ive found little in the way of bugs, the only suggestion id like to make is to add a marine sniper or former marine sniper.

Thanks! Although it’s nearly impossible to introduce bugs into such a simple mod.

I like that suggestion! I may add a sniper class in my next update.

Alpha · 2014-04-01T01:10:37.000Z

Enke:

[quote=“Alpha, post:25, topic:5174”]Id just like to thank you for the great work on this mod, ive found it thoroughly enjoyable, ive found little in the way of bugs, the only suggestion id like to make is to add a marine sniper or former marine sniper.

Thanks! Although it’s nearly impossible to introduce bugs into such a simple mod.

I like that suggestion! I may add a sniper class in my next update. :-)[/quote]
Well awesome , and even more awesome that you are so active on it!

edit Just curious, do you make any items or are they all vanilla that you add to each profession.

Enke · 2014-04-01T02:32:58.000Z

Alpha:

[quote=“Enke, post:26, topic:5174”][quote=“Alpha, post:25, topic:5174”]Id just like to thank you for the great work on this mod, ive found it thoroughly enjoyable, ive found little in the way of bugs, the only suggestion id like to make is to add a marine sniper or former marine sniper.

Thanks! Although it’s nearly impossible to introduce bugs into such a simple mod.

I like that suggestion! I may add a sniper class in my next update. :-)[/quote]
Well awesome , and even more awesome that you are so active on it!

edit Just curious, do you make any items or are they all vanilla that you add to each profession.[/quote]
Right now, I’m just adding professions. All items carried by the professions in this mod are vanilla. My other mod adds in some new armor, storage units, weapons, and ties them together in a profession. Check it out if you want some new stuff, although I have to admit it’s another “more guns and armor” mod.

Alpha · 2014-04-01T03:20:45.000Z

Ah, the Nanosoldier one? I was considering adding it in, it just kinda confused me as to the concept behind nanosoldiers. Ill probably download it and give it a look, once my current character dies of something horrible.

Zaweri_Runewright · 2014-04-01T05:29:40.000Z

Wait what? CAVEMAN? TIME TO ALERT OG!
On a serious post, this mod is awesome and you should feel awesome.