Moar (improvised) Weapons!

[HunterAlpha1]

bolas can be used to trip or slow zombies.

whips could be used to enslave NPCs XD

[Cherry]

I spent like 20 mins searching the internet for improvised weapons, and I mostly found items that had already been added in game.
You can improvise almost anything with nails, wood, and some glue or duct tape.
Everything else involves picking up items that are just laying around houses to fight with.

The only thing I haven’t seen was exercise dumbbells. The ones for 1 hand.
Then again, it probably wouldn’t be much more effective than a rock.

[turtleagldragon]

Cherry, i’m not sure where you are going, but you just gave me a great idea!
With the addition of one handed punching bags (i know that’s not what you meant, but i thought it was for a second) you could stick some nails through it and now it’s a dodge ball of death!

Maybe even tack off the leather and wrap it around a rock and stick nails out of the leather again? Maybe tie it to the end of a stick like a flail or mace? Do you guys understand where I am going with this, I would like to see some really messy, strewn together weapons we could make when you start raiding your first town and get a little ahead of yourself and need something asap apart from smashing a couple of closets and sticking the nails through a plank of wood. These are the kinds of things i am suggesting, not herp-a-derp shirt with two bags sewn onto it.

[FunsizeNinja123]

No.

[Crador]

you just gave me a great idea!

Those nails in that “bag” would stick in the first zombie you hit. It’ll take a LOT efforts to “recover” weapon after that.
Not to mention that carrying it around would make more damage to you, then zombie claws.

“Improvised” weapons means “Handmade”, not some kind of “Let’s collect pile of shit, drop to the box and mix a bit - that’ll be our Doomslayer +100”, IMHO

[FunsizeNinja123]

“Improvised” weapons means “Handmade”, not some kind of “Let’s collect pile of shit, drop to the box and mix a bit - that’ll be our Doomslayer +100”, IMHO

This.

[Cherry]

That improvised flail keeps reminding me over and over of the homewrecker.
Which I believe is a huge improvised mace.

Steel chains are kinda rare, but if you happen to find one, I imagine you could improvise a flail with some wood, duct tape, and chunk of steel + rag as the whack part of the thing.

Also, throwing kettle bells at zombie should be hilarious improvised weapons. Rock power x 3. Rock range / 3.
That’s all I got.

My earlier point: It is easier to find an item on the ground that makes a good weapon rather than craft one from scrap, in my opinion.
Finding a pipe or 2by4 with nails is good enough for the first 3 days.
Until window tactic becomes obsolete ofc.

[EkarusRyndren]

I don’t know if any of you have removed carpet before but I’d like to point out that despite it looking like fabric, there’s a hard plastic backing on it, usually made harder by the glue and while it rolls up nicely in one direction, it’s not exactly the most flexible thing. You’d probably have an easier time wearing form-fitting cardboard. On top of that, it’d be itchy as hell, even with clothes on under it. Lastly I very highly doubt it’d be warm.

[HunterAlpha1]

depending on the type of carpet it would make passable armor though.

[EkarusRyndren]

depending on the type of carpet it would make passable armor though.

So would duct-taping bottles of pills together, they’re both about as easy to move in and make into armor.

[turtleagldragon]

Okay, not too many new ideas…

Lets talk about those spiked balls, i don’t see how they would hurt you when you’re carrying them if a katana, a chainsaw, or a thousand machetes wont hurt you at all in your pockets, who cares if it should. What if it gets stuck in the zombie it hits and you can pick it up after smashing the corpse? You might not get it back, but it might even be a 1 hit KO if your char is a reasonably good thrower.

With the carpet jacket thing, I was thinking maybe it gave you a lot of warmth so as to stop players from wearing it all the time, since it’s like, heavy and uncomfortable and stuff, but could you just imagine how handy it would be to have zombies try to bite into a carpet instead of your flesh, you would get hardly any damage, but it’s way too big and heavy and warm to keep it? sounds fair?

And funsizeninja, i don’t see how a true noob ‘helper’ can’t even justify his own arguments. These aren’t just piling shit together, these are the kinds of things you would do if you were stuck in a house and knew you had to get some sort of weapon sorted, and if you actually considered them for a second you might just see how cool it would be.

[ClockworkZombie]

Carpet armour was so popular in the SCA at one time that most areas have banned it because it looks terrible and encourages people to show up swathed in duct tape. Shaped properly it does a pretty good job at protecting though. (pieces of) Five-gallon HDPE buckets (usually food-grade) are also pretty common and are still in general use because they’re light, easy to shape into pieces and hide under other clothing. It’s not going to stop a bullet, but a baseball bat? Yeah. absolutely. As a note you wouldn’t wear a “sheet” of carpet, because it’s impractical and near impossible to move in (as others have stated).

I’d personally like to see more improvised items like this. Tire rubber is another extremely common and generally useful material.

[EkarusRyndren]

Lets talk about those spiked balls, i don’t see how they would hurt you when you’re carrying them if a katana, a chainsaw, or a thousand machetes wont hurt you at all in your pockets, who cares if it should. What if it gets stuck in the zombie it hits and you can pick it up after smashing the corpse? You might not get it back, but it might even be a 1 hit KO if your char is a reasonably good thrower.

Because traditionally speaking when you’re carrying around a Katana it’s got this nifty bit of material that goes over the metal bit and can be removed before use so the hurty bit can hurt things and it keeps the hurty bit from getting less hurty because of being clunk against other not-so-hurty things. Some chainsaws also have these strange materials you can place over the blade but traditionally the hurty bit isn’t on when you store it. I have no idea what you’re talking about with a thousand matches, even loose I don’t see a million matches stabbing you as you walk whearas as sock with some nails in it would 1: Fall apart quickly, assuming you could hit anything with it at all. And two, don’t we already have a rock in a sock, why do we need nails in a sock?

Can we have bullets in a sock too? Because that may not be realistic but damn it’d be cool right?

How about a landmine on a stick, that’s improvised, cool, and ungodly impractical too!

[Rivet]

How about a landmine on a stick, that’s improvised, cool, and ungodly impractical too!

Oddly enough, this was suggested a while back.

Once it was explained to the person who suggested it that detonating the landmine would hurt them too (maybe they were thinking of a reeeeeaaaaaallllly long stick) they dropped it.

It makes for a very amusing mental image, though.

[Logrin]

If we didn’t have chainswords already I’d suggest a hacksword = Several manhacks lined up along a hacksaw and reinforced with some bits of metal.

I like tire armor and I like puns, if it gets added why not call it TREAD MAIL?

As long as we’re suggesting improvised anything why don’t we show some love to the redheaded step-child of the crafting menu–TRAPS.

Several quick ideas:

*Atomic Landmine
*Concertina wire
*A reaction for setting grenades to go off when a door is opened/smashed
*Various IED’s : Spring Mines, Nail bombs, and acid ‘sprinklers’.
*Termite = Mix some up and sprinkle liberally onto the ground. Ignite for an instant raging inferno from your makeshift pyrotechnics.
*Car Bombs = Powerful explosives that can be cued for detonation via vehicle controls.
*Electrified wire
*Crybaby = Landmine+Talking doll+Ducktape
*Glass Shards+Superglue
*etc

[FunsizeNinja123]

I like Lorkins ideas.

Not carpet armor.

[EkarusRyndren]

[quote=“Logrin, post:22, topic:5047”]*Concertina wire
*Electrified wire[/quote]
It might not be a bad idea to change out all “Barbed Wire” to be “Razor Wire” I think the only place barbed wire is still in use is farms, secure locations use Razor Wire with an electrified fence.

*Termite = Mix some up and sprinkle liberally onto the ground. Ignite for an instant raging inferno from your makeshift pyrotechnics.

Did you mean Thermite? Might be nice to have this available in game to breach locked metal doors…

*Crybaby = Landmine+Talking doll+Ducktape

All I can think of is the Crybaby in Firefly now. Thanks.

[John_Candlebury]

[quote=“turtleagldragon, post:18, topic:5047”]Okay, not too many new ideas…

Lets talk about those spiked balls, i don’t see how they would hurt you when you’re carrying them if a katana, a chainsaw, or a thousand machetes wont hurt you at all in your pockets, who cares if it should. What if it gets stuck in the zombie it hits and you can pick it up after smashing the corpse? You might not get it back, but it might even be a 1 hit KO if your char is a reasonably good thrower.[/quote]

Sure why would you actually use on instead of like throwing a rock? Because it has nails? I cant say I have thrown a nail ball at someone before but Im pretty sure it wouldnt perform as well as lets say, a rock. Anyway how are you even going to make it?

Sorry guy, when it comes to CATA rocks beat nails, and scissors, and paper.

[TheGrifter]

[quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:20, topic:5047”]How about a landmine on a stick, that’s improvised, cool, and ungodly impractical too!

Oddly enough, this was suggested a while back.

Once it was explained to the person who suggested it that detonating the landmine would hurt them too (maybe they were thinking of a reeeeeaaaaaallllly long stick) they dropped it.

It makes for a very amusing mental image, though.[/quote]

If this was a claymore, I can see this working out if luck decides to smile upon the idiot who decides to try it.

As long as they’re bright enough to read the part that says, “Front towards enemy”… Which is not a given, considering the type of people that would consider such a thing.

[Logrin]

Looks like you caught my typo Ekarus. I did indeed mean thermite. I was thinking that this could be great for just dropping on the ground and lighting on fire for an instant inferno that would domino its way down the trail.