# Mechanics is kinda fucked up
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mechanics-is-kinda-fucked-up/12192
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [July 9, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mechanics-is-kinda-fucked-up/12192 "2016-07-09T14:59:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@Gnorse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gnorse)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mechanics-is-kinda-fucked-up/12192/1 "2016-07-09T14:59:29Z")
sorry if this isnt the right spot but come on , mechanics was made to be leveled up quickly but now nearly everything except frames needs mechanics level 2 or more , even horns and headlights need level 2 now , and no , dont tell me find books or whatever because that shit can be taken out pretty fucking easily even i can do it IRL and i my mechanics knowledge is like 0.2/10 so i am not sure if this is intended or no because i am pretty sure a horn is easier to remove than a frame
once again , sorry for whining and/or if this isnt the right section
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### Author:  [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mechanics-is-kinda-fucked-up/12192/2 "2016-07-09T19:07:31Z")
uth has been a prereq for me for so long I dont even notice how mivh skill is needed to do work below 3.
3 skill is considered competent. 5 is professional. so requiring 2skill to put in a horn isnt completely offbase
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### Author:  [@Soyweiser](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Soyweiser)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mechanics-is-kinda-fucked-up/12192/3 "2016-07-12T18:22:03Z")
Think removing batteries requires skill 1.