# Massive and reproducible slowdown (git425255a5)

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**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [March 8, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/massive-and-reproducible-slowdown-git425255a5/26053 "2021-03-08T21:51:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/massive-and-reproducible-slowdown-git425255a5/26053/11 "2021-03-10T05:17:17Z")

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> [@ThinkSome](#):
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> When there will be enough of us refusing unethical services, the latter will become socially unacceptable/go away and the world will be a better place.

I don’t want to strive further from the base topic, but I disagree with that. Trying to make “something go away” usually turns out bad if there’s no replacement; one should always aim to improve existing things and/or suggest good alternatives.  
Repeated complaints might just get dull and can result in defiant reactions.

> [@Mantar](#):
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> Just because “you do it too” (Tu quoque) doesn’t mean you’re wrong to call something unethical.

Mostly agreed. Although asking/supporting others to do something one considers unethically - as s-/he did [previously](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/gallon-jug-as-a-vehicle-tank/25707/9) - is something that does not fit well into this, at least from my graps of ethics (as in; something so fundamentally flawed that the usage or support of it is never justifiable). Given the circumstances the better term would may be “immoral”?

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> [@ThinkSome](#):
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> There is another issue, that is also in today’s master (git aac9170e): Using NPCs for skill training drains my focus all the way down to 1, while it previously only drained up to 10 points.

I’m not sure that this is a bug, this might as well be intended.

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