Martial arts 101

[joxer]

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There’s always more to be added to it, Now I’d like to point out an opportunity for those of ye with better literary attunement than i to optimize, rephrase and forward over the things that may be said in this thread ( Or any other ) To the wiki.

[Coolthulhu]

Which MAs are underappreciated? What should a melee-orientated player know?

Brawling - the free one - is great. It is a bit low on damage, but it has a knockback, trip and a counter, making it great for not taking hits.

[troll_from_behind]

Gotta agree with Old Tentacle, Brawling IS awesome! (And free!)
Times you actually get hit are rather few with trip, knockback and counter.
And the damage seems to be very least par with everything with stats of 8, naturally minmax adds a lot to likes Muy Thai, Dragon or Scorpion.

[BigLie]

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D’oh. Good catch. Also I haven’t noticed this exact article; been reading a different one (prolly the one from the guides page).

Thanks for the responses folks.

[Jarlaxle]

[quote=“BigLie, post:1, topic:9829”]Which MAs are underappreciated? What should a melee-orientated player know?

Brawling - the free one - is great. It is a bit low on damage, but it has a knockback, trip and a counter, making it great for not taking hits.[/quote]

Stupid question but does brawling give any bonus effect while wielding a melee weapon? If not should there be a bare bones “free” melee weapon style?

[Coolthulhu]

Stupid question but does brawling give any bonus effect while wielding a melee weapon?

Its knockback on crit works with all weapons.

[troll_from_behind]

EVEN with ones like combat knife?!?
If so it’s OPness just shoot through the roof!

[lootpack]

The knockback isn’t normal? Because the Brawling changes to Normal when wielding just a punch dagger or knuckles?

[Coolthulhu]

The knockback isn’t normal? Because the Brawling changes to Normal when wielding just a punch dagger or knuckles?

Brawling changing to normal may be a display bug. Knockback works with any weapon, even if the style is shown as “Normal”, as long as it is actually set to “Brawling”.

[joxer]

i can confirmed that bug, tested it in 0.C just a couple minutes ago.

edit: Opened a suggestion thread relevant to this topic, check it here.

[Taraq]

I really like ninjutsu. The quietness means you can basically fight melee without any risk of attracting zombies, which makes night raiding even better than it already was (especially with light step) as rather than needing to be a block away zombies need to be like 10ft away to hear you. And the movement dodge/(crit?) bonuses are fantastic. Or it might be the precision strike? Either way, I crit more often than not.

[deoxy]

I really like ninjutsu. The quietness means you can basically fight melee without any risk of attracting zombies, which makes night raiding even better than it already was (especially with light step) as rather than needing to be a block away zombies need to be like 10ft away to hear you. And the movement dodge/(crit?) bonuses are fantastic. Or it might be the precision strike? Either way, I crit more often than not.

I enjoy ninjitsu quite a bit myself - add light step and weak scent, and you can ghost QUITE well… right up until you get GLOWED by the new huge boomers. :-/

Not that I don’t like them (and the other zombie upgrades), only that they make ghosting about quite difficult.

[Taraq]

[quote=“Taraq, post:13, topic:9829”]I really like ninjutsu. The quietness means you can basically fight melee without any risk of attracting zombies, which makes night raiding even better than it already was (especially with light step) as rather than needing to be a block away zombies need to be like 10ft away to hear you. And the movement dodge/(crit?) bonuses are fantastic. Or it might be the precision strike? Either way, I crit more often than not.

I enjoy ninjitsu quite a bit myself - add light step and weak scent, and you can ghost QUITE well… right up until you get GLOWED by the new huge boomers. :-/

Not that I don’t like them (and the other zombie upgrades), only that they make ghosting about quite difficult.[/quote]

Oh, I wasn’t quite sure what that meant. What exactly does glow do?

[Shopkeeper]

Oh, I wasn’t quite sure what that meant. What exactly does glow do?

Getting thrown up on by a Huge Boomer lights you up like a christmas tree. Being the only bright light in the middle of the night in a Zombie infested city will end just about as well as you might expect.

[joxer]

Oh, I wasn’t quite sure what that meant. What exactly does glow do?

What it sounds like, your vision is reduced to 1 tile around you and surrounding mobs are able to see you ( asif you were holding a lightsource or standing the the headlights of a wreckage / etc i’m assuming )

One thing i absolutely must have with ninjitsu is the nightvision perk you start with.
It’s… actually quite damn good in the experimental, not sure if it scales with perception or not but it’s definitely showing allot more than it used to

[Azrad]

The extra range on the light vision with night vision is really nice. In general, lighting seems to have been tweaked a bit.

Due to that, early game turret murder has become less viable. Both normal and milspec turret’s light radius is bigger now, so throwing rocks is harder, and maybe impossible. You’ll need a good rifle in order to snipe out milspecs now.

[BigLie]

It’s… actually quite damn good in the experimental, not sure if it scales with perception or not but it’s definitely showing allot more than it used to

Aye, NV is much more useful now.

[kevin.granade]

tip: throw a light source at the turret.

[joxer]

[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:20, topic:9829”]tip: throw a light source at the turret.[/quote] imagine- “lightstrip” the grenade… heh
unless it may already be used in this manner

hah damn that’ll save me some severe heart-ache in labs xD

might also try attatching a headlight to an improvised cart, surely the turrets wouldn’t attack it

[Soyweiser]

tip: throw a light source at the turret.

I felt a great disturbance in the apocalypse, as if millions of turrets suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.