# Man made basement **URL:** \ **Category:** The Bunker\ **Created:** [March 7, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363 "2013-03-07T00:47:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![Siferous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Siferous](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Siferous)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/1 "2013-03-07T00:47:49Z")

Hello folks, is there any way to make your own basement/cave? I want to construct my own fortress and was hoping I could use a shovel or a jackhammer to make my own underground section under my walls. Is there any way to do this? Thanks ---

**Author:** ![warwolf0315](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aca169/32.png) [@warwolf0315](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/warwolf0315)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/2 "2013-03-07T00:56:26Z")

you cant make your own stairs so you need a set to do that but you can use a jackhammer to carve out tunnels but its pretty costly in terms of gas ---

**Author:** ![Siferous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Siferous](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Siferous)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/3 "2013-03-07T00:58:49Z")

I have a plastic jerrycan full of gas (8000 units I think). Does that mean that I can fill up the jackhammer 80 times since it seems to hold 100 units? ---

**Author:** ![Danv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Danv](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Danv)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/4 "2013-03-07T06:12:52Z")

i think jackhammer holds 120 units and uses 10 unit per action, so 8000 units - 800 uses it took me least than half of big jerrycan to dig out few new rooms in LMOE shelter, a really big rooms ---

**Author:** ![Asra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Asra](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Asra)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/5 "2013-03-07T15:30:48Z")

Works really well if you kill a trapdoor spider(harder than it sounds, depending on how you’re built up) and steal its cave. They’re hard to find though ---

**Author:** ![Siferous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Siferous](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Siferous)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/6 "2013-03-07T16:05:05Z")

Unfortantly I have never found a trap-door spider yet. ---

**Author:** ![Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lost](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lost)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/7 "2013-03-07T16:06:05Z")

Look for a block of webbing in the forest. There’s a hole somewhere in there, and underneath is ol’ Shelob. ---

**Author:** ![Jihelu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@Jihelu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jihelu)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/8 "2013-03-07T16:06:48Z")

> [@Lost](#): > > Look for a block of webbing in the forest. There’s a hole somewhere in there, and underneath is ol’ Shelob. Go to webs, break all of them, find hole, go into hole, get pounced by spider, rage out. ---

**Author:** ![Siferous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Siferous](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Siferous)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/9 "2013-03-07T16:09:44Z")

So, I should just molotov the whole place is what you’re saying? ---

**Author:** ![jimboblordofeskimos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/jimboblordofeskimos/32/2_2.png) [@jimboblordofeskimos](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jimboblordofeskimos)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/10 "2013-03-07T18:03:20Z")

Why not just use a regular cave? ---

**Author:** ![Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/22d042/32.png) [@Lost](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lost)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/11 "2013-03-07T18:30:50Z")

That also works. Caves tend to be closer to civilization as well, and much easier to access by car, since you don’t need to chop down a line of trees to get there. But then the question becomes what are you more capable of fighting more, ol’ Shelob or a bear? ---

**Author:** ![The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/the_darkling_wolf/32/828_2.png) [@The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Darkling_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/12 "2013-03-07T19:05:33Z")

Digging out your own basements is planned. It just requires a bit of a rework of how the game handles z-level transitions. Right now it teleports you to the first stair it finds on the level you want to go to, which is why it’s always I think the top left stair. ---

**Author:** ![Asra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Asra](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Asra)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/13 "2013-03-08T14:42:57Z")

> [@Lost](#): > > That also works. Caves tend to be closer to civilization as well, and much easier to access by car, since you don’t need to chop down a line of trees to get there. But then the question becomes what are you more capable of fighting more, ol’ Shelob or a bear? I’d be more worried about a cave full of rats than a bear, especially toward the beginning. As for the webs, you don’t need a molotov. You can just drop a branch in the webs and use a lighter on it. A molotov would be faster though. ---

**Author:** ![Siferous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Siferous](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Siferous)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/14 "2013-03-08T15:15:27Z")

> As for the webs, you don't need a molotov. You can just drop a branch in the webs and use a lighter on it. A molotov would be faster though. I used a molotov because I didn’t want to get close to the spiders in the web and have them start chasing me. Spiders are tougher then I expected them to be and already have lost a couple characters do them. ---

**Author:** ![Asra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Asra](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Asra)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/15 "2013-03-09T02:18:01Z")

You shouldn’t worry too much about it. Web spiders are pretty slow and don’t give chase as much. They’re the weakest if you don’t go into the web. ---

**Author:** ![uzername](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@uzername](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/uzername)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-made-basement/363/16 "2013-03-09T20:11:03Z")

> it teleports you to the first stair it finds on the level you want to go to How did you find that? This might be important for a concept of multistoreyed buildings (appartments/hotels/…), not only for basement creation.