# Lifting tools & removing batteries

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [April 4, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527 "2019-04-04T05:54:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527/1 "2019-04-04T05:54:42Z")

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I found a vehicle with a mint condition storage battery that I want, but it wants a tool with lifting 1. I have literally sitting right beside the vehicle, a telescopic crane from an engine crane I found in a mechanics garage. It has lifting 7…but doesn’t seem to fulfill the quality requirement, as its still red and I can’t remove the battery. What’s the issue? Very frustrating.

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**Author:** ![crazykiddeath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/crazykiddeath/32/5709_2.png) [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527/2 "2019-04-04T06:36:45Z")

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From what I recall, you need the lifting item to have line of sight on the item you want to remove/add as well as being within the usual distance for using a tool.

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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 6:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527/3 "2019-04-04T06:52:53Z")

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Apparently being directly adjacent to the cell I want to do something with is too close for line of sight … putting it a space away works.

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**Author:** ![Vastin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vastin/32/9912_2.png) [@Vastin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Vastin)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527/4 "2019-04-04T21:28:22Z")

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Getting the line of sight to work for lifting objects is extremely fudgey and aggravating. I don’t mind the range restrictions, but I’d love to see them pull LOS back out of the checks, it’s a %^#$ crane - the whole point of it is to reach OVER things, not thru them. 😡

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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lifting-tools-removing-batteries/19527/5 "2019-04-04T22:05:49Z")

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I mean I get that they don’t want you reaching through walls, but who cares if you’re reaching past other vehicles, right? It’s frustrating.