# Let us load single rounds into guns without magazines
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/let-us-load-single-rounds-into-guns-without-magazines/27495
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [January 12, 2022, 9:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/let-us-load-single-rounds-into-guns-without-magazines/27495 "2022-01-12T09:33:23Z")
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### Author:  [@4R53N1C](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/4R53N1C)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2022, 9:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/let-us-load-single-rounds-into-guns-without-magazines/27495/1 "2022-01-12T09:33:23Z")
It’s possible to put a round directly into the chamber of pretty much all guns and fire them, unless they have a magazine safety. This would be a nice option to have in case you are in the rare situation of having a gun with ammo, but no magazine.
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### Author:  [@anothersimulacrum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anothersimulacrum)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/let-us-load-single-rounds-into-guns-without-magazines/27495/2 "2022-01-13T02:45:57Z")
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> \# Describe the solution you'd like
> Allow using a weapon without a magazine by d…irectly loading a single round into the chamber.
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> There must a be time penalty to directly loading into the chamber. But at least I can use the gun when I don't find a magazine.
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> Picking up a gun without a magazine practically means the thing is worthless, es…pecially early game when you lack the storage capacity to haul the thing around until you do find a mag, if you ever do. That's not even mentioning finding magazines is tedious since the only regular places to find them are gun stores. This is not always a huge problem but annoying enough that a quality of life improvement like this wouldn't hurt.
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> The ability to load a single round into a gun even if it lacks a magazine, with some kind of penalty to reload speed or even increased probability of it jamming would easily rectify this. Most firearms allow this to some degree as long as you have access to the chamber and can pull the bolt back, in the case of rifles, smgs and the like, or can pull the slide back, in the case of handguns. This obviously isn't the safest procedure but, in a survival situation, justified.
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> Alternatively, just having guns spawn with mags already with them. There's... not really a good reason to have a gun without the magazine either in it, somewhere close by or otherwise in the home with it. I dunno if having every gun that doesn't spawn without a mag have one nearby would be easy, so just having them already in would probably be less of a hassle.