# Latest Changes in the recent daily updates

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [August 30, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880 "2013-08-30T17:43:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/1 "2013-08-30T17:43:14Z")

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Probably want 1 thread per release. Its hard to tell from the ‘commits’ what the major additions/changes are. We all know about coming tiles. I have been playing an older one since I don’t like to start over constantly. Anyone have comments on some of the major changes. Things I noticed from forums

– some kind of city size option (from bay12 forums)  
– Change to water. Toilets run out. Funnels fill over time  
– new recipes (like always). saw pickle jars  
– further refinements to archery training

just post ‘major stuff’. I might read through and update the list in the first post for people. It will let people know if they want to move to a newer daily version or not. If you have a good game going, you may not want to start over.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/2 "2013-08-30T18:21:23Z")

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Yea we’re pretty terrible about keeping up with the changelog, I should probably catch that up any time I do a merge, then it’d be a teensy little task.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/3 "2013-08-30T18:53:11Z")

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–Completely new blacksmithing system based in fabrication skill

(its kinda easy to miss)

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/4 "2013-08-30T19:03:08Z")

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Nails for the nail god gun.

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**Author:** ![Inquisitor\_Dust](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/inquisitor_dust/32/119_2.png) [@Inquisitor\_Dust](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inquisitor_Dust)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/5 "2013-08-31T00:44:42Z")

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I generally get vague ideas of what’s being added from the commits…

[quote=“John Candlebury, post:3, topic:2880”]–Completely new blacksmithing system based in fabrication skill  
(its kinda easy to miss)[/quote]  
Complete with a bunch of new weapons and a leather apron!

I believe there are diamond eyes-sequences bionics for EVERY stat now, thanks to Rivet.

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**Author:** ![dwarfkoala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dwarfkoala/32/9_2.png) [@dwarfkoala](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dwarfkoala)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/6 "2013-08-31T00:51:04Z")

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I’m not sure what the status is, but there is supposedly a spawn density option. Zombie apocalypse too pedestrian? How about MORE zombie apocalypse?

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**Author:** ![dwarfkoala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dwarfkoala/32/9_2.png) [@dwarfkoala](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dwarfkoala)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/7 "2013-08-31T01:15:16Z")

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GalenEvil published this little number  
 ![](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108102506/DDA/WorldFactory/WF_LoadScreen.png)

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/8 "2013-08-31T15:45:13Z")

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Spawn size modifier. Roll x50 spawn size, I dares ya.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/9 "2013-08-31T15:53:55Z")

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Combine it with 16x cities and you get undead New York simulation.

Is as impossible to survive as you’ll think it will be in real life

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**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/10 "2013-08-31T16:11:04Z")

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large cities and extra spawns would be fun to mix with the buff option to make your character stronger to balance it out. turn it into more of a shooter. Im messing with elona now. ill try this out.

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**Author:** ![Inquisitor\_Dust](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/inquisitor_dust/32/119_2.png) [@Inquisitor\_Dust](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inquisitor_Dust)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/11 "2013-08-31T16:44:14Z")

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> [@youtoo](#):
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> large cities and extra spawns would be fun to mix with the buff option to make your character stronger to balance it out. turn it into more of a shooter. Im messing with elona now. ill try this out.

The buff option? What’s that? Or do you mean upping the number of points you start with?

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**Author:** ![Weyrling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7bcc69/32.png) [@Weyrling](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Weyrling)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/12 "2013-08-31T20:10:18Z")

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> [@Iosyn](#):
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> Spawn size modifier. Roll x50 spawn size, I dares ya.

I died in less than 5 minutes from a horde of spitters that turned half the screen into a giant pool of acid. I killed 50 zombies with martial arts before the evac shelter started to get flooded with zombie dogs and I had to escape onto the streets.  
My evac shelter was in the middle of a giant city, I’m pretty sure it’s literally impossible to survive that scenario even if I started with 25 points.

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/13 "2013-08-31T23:43:24Z")

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> [@Weyrling](#):
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> [quote=“Iosyn, post:8, topic:2880”]Spawn size modifier. Roll x50 spawn size, I dares ya.

I died in less than 5 minutes from a horde of spitters that turned half the screen into a giant pool of acid. I killed 50 zombies with martial arts before the evac shelter started to get flooded with zombie dogs and I had to escape onto the streets.  
My evac shelter was in the middle of a giant city, I’m pretty sure it’s literally impossible to survive that scenario even if I started with 25 points.[/quote]  
Stealth and moderation is the key, my friend 😛

Of course, then you need to consider obtaining food and water. +1 internets for giving it a go mate, well done. 🙂

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/14 "2013-08-31T23:57:27Z")

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> [@Iosyn](#):
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> Spawn size modifier. Roll x50 spawn size, I dares ya.

Tried doing it, it says: Could not find a shelter! Then crashes… Damn, i really wanted to try it. Still, the biggest i can make the cities are just 6. D:

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/15 "2013-09-01T15:13:19Z")

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> [@StopSignal](#):
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> [quote=“Iosyn, post:8, topic:2880”]Spawn size modifier. Roll x50 spawn size, I dares ya.

Tried doing it, it says: Could not find a shelter! Then crashes… Damn, i really wanted to try it. Still, the biggest i can make the cities are just 6. D:[/quote]

There’s spawn size and city size. A large city size might not be able to place a shelter since the city would cover a significant portion of the map.  
Spawn size at x50 is freakin’ ridiculous. It’s really a zombie horde then.

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**Author:** ![Inquisitor\_Dust](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/inquisitor_dust/32/119_2.png) [@Inquisitor\_Dust](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inquisitor_Dust)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/16 "2013-09-01T18:01:49Z")

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> [@Iosyn](#):
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> [quote=“StopSignal, post:14, topic:2880”][quote=“Iosyn, post:8, topic:2880”]Spawn size modifier. Roll x50 spawn size, I dares ya.

Tried doing it, it says: Could not find a shelter! Then crashes… Damn, i really wanted to try it. Still, the biggest i can make the cities are just 6. D:[/quote]

There’s spawn size and city size. A large city size might not be able to place a shelter since the city would cover a significant portion of the map.  
Spawn size at x50 is freakin’ ridiculous. It’s really a zombie horde then.[/quote]  
Are you sure that would stop it? I’ve had shelter in the middle of a town before. That was !!FUN!!.

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**Author:** ![Oragepoilu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@Oragepoilu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Oragepoilu)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/17 "2013-09-01T20:18:34Z")

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If you look at towns, you’ll see some spot that are empty; so shelter could spam into it, maybe, in some way ?  
But it would be difficult. Can’t make a make with bigger city size than 6, too.  
Iv tryed surviving \*50 rate, with max point i could give, dog keep killing me (bleeding and too fast after some point) ☹

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**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/18 "2013-09-02T03:17:44Z")

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@inquisitor: yeah increase your starter points to balance out more zombies. so its more of a shooter game.

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**Author:** ![kemor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@kemor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kemor)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/19 "2013-09-08T18:40:21Z")

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[quote=“John Candlebury, post:9, topic:2880”]Combine it with 16x cities and you get undead New York simulation.

Is as impossible to survive as you’ll think it will be in real life[/quote]

You only need to run faster than the slowest guys…🙂

That said, such setting with another setting for the number of NPCs around, might become REALLY interesting. 16x cities, 50x static/classic zombies and tons of NPCs…Oh yea…the first days would be fun indeed!

edit:  
Need Z order for this to work proper though. Would love my dude to run 30 levels of stairs, get on the roof, close the metallic door…and try to find a way out that doesn’t involve mutagen and wings 🙂

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-changes-in-the-recent-daily-updates/2880/20 "2013-09-08T20:35:58Z")

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Parachute!

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