# Lack of proficiency is mitigated?

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**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [January 7, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645 "2021-01-07T12:52:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThinkSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@ThinkSome](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ThinkSome)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/1 "2021-01-07T12:52:26Z")

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Mitigated? What does that mean?

0.1 times as long sounds … buggy? 😮

 ![quiver_proficiency](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/3/3355cb5712e174cc25847a23588c997c791be513.png)

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**Author:** ![PALU](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/2 "2021-01-07T16:56:59Z")

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“mitigated” means “compensated for”. You could mitigate losses of water in a pipe by pushing more water through it, for instance. You still have a leaky pipe, but the other end gets the required amount of water. Note that a mitigation might not compensate to 100%, so even though you’ve taken some measures to handle the problem, you can still have some problem left, although to a lesser degree.

A guess is that some book compensates for the missing competence.

0.1 times normal and still 13½ hours doesn’t sound reasonable, while 10 times normal might be reasonable.

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**Author:** ![zantanzuken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zantanzuken/32/10325_2.png) [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/3 "2021-01-07T17:09:00Z")

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assumedly you either have a book which has a recipe, and your character is following that rather than using your skill, OR you have so much skill in the particular skills that you don’t have a chance (or as much) of failure.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/4 "2021-01-07T21:24:52Z")

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> [@PALU](#):
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> 0.1 times normal and still 13½ hours doesn’t sound reasonable

Maybe it’s “0.1 times less” faster! 🤔

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**Author:** ![Paul\_Blay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/paul_blay/32/6803_2.png) [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/5 "2021-01-08T13:23:05Z")

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Maybe someone got confused about the difference between 10% longer and 10% as long.

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**Author:** ![PALU](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/6 "2021-01-08T19:09:35Z")

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Well, 1.1 yielding 13 ½ hours seems excessive. 1 / 0.1 = 10 times would mean standard time would be between 1 and 1½ hours, which I would consider reasonable (I’ve never made a quiver IRL, though).

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**Author:** ![ThinkSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@ThinkSome](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ThinkSome)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lack-of-proficiency-is-mitigated/25645/7 "2021-01-08T19:25:07Z")

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The original recipe is 6h. 13.5h is 2.2 times that.

I suppose one could craft a really crude quiver by bending a pi\*10 cm = 31 cm long sheet of metal into a circle, then putting it into one of the leg holes of some scrap pants and crudely sew off the bottom. Probably can’t take more than 30 mins.