Karicter's SHTF Handloader Mod

Litppunk · 2015-10-08T19:41:53.000Z

Oh maybe make it so weapons firing blackpowder make 1 tile of thin smoke in direction of fired weapon… hmm prob a little way away from that though.

Random_dragon · 2015-10-08T19:48:48.000Z

Might be might a tad awkward to implement. Though the trail ammo flag would sorta work.

Noctifer · 2015-10-08T21:34:06.000Z

Omg, this, so much this! So added furniture can be successfully implemented. Broken casings and such make sense since a survivor is not by any means a professional bullet factory. This is alone should make firearms a viable self sufficient route. I will keep an eye on this to see where it goes.

Karicter · 2015-10-09T00:16:20.000Z

Litppunk:

Oh maybe make it so weapons firing blackpowder make 1 tile of thin smoke in direction of fired weapon… hmm prob a little way away from that though.

Definitely something for later version fine tuning, maybe just cloning using cigarettes.

Random_dragon:

Might be might a tad awkward to implement. Though the trail ammo flag would sorta work.

If youre refering to the smoke, I dont believe it is, but if you’re refering to the black gunpowder weapons youre right, though causing the black powder to “break” the gun somehow and the barrel brush to “repair” it might be a decent workaround.

Noctifer:

Omg, this, so much this! So added furniture can be successfully implemented. Broken casings and such make sense since a survivor is not by any means a professional bullet factory. This is alone should make firearms a viable self sufficient route. I will keep an eye on this to see where it goes.

Much appreciated, considering You technically started this. The cases seemed logical since we dont want this to drop game difficulty drastically in the late game. Most likely the Annealing machine and Ball mill will be rarer than the Drill press and die machine so that even if a play finds the mobile Hand press and die set, they are producing substandard “broken” casings and ammunition in general.

Karicter · 2015-10-09T00:51:48.000Z

Update to OP, added:

New items needed for the process:
Proposed new Recipes:

Noctifer · 2015-10-09T01:39:24.000Z

[quote=“Karicter, post:1, topic:10662”]New items needed for the process:
Graphite - Powder used in the Ball mill to coat the Black gunpowder along with Ammonia turning it into modern Gunpowder.
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Pencil - very small source of Graphite.
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Pencil box - disassemble for multiple Pencils.
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Jar of Graphite - usually found in school labs.
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I quick look revealed that graphite is also sold in hardware shops. I guess jars of it could also be found there.

Edit: it appears graphite is also used in batteries and motors but extracting it from it would be hard I imagine… Mining and producing it is way to complicated from what Wikipedia says for the average survivor to do.

Karicter · 2015-10-09T03:54:45.000Z

Noctifer:

I quick look revealed that graphite is…

Thanks for that, I had completely forgotten hardware stores. Ill be sure to add that on the locations as well. I agree, that is some CVD machine level stuff, and for now im already teetering on the crap most survivors cant pull off as it is.

Karicter · 2015-10-18T14:51:37.000Z

Finally an update. (About time Karicter, you asshole.)

Update to:

Current Visual Update

Gunpowder will need:

Static version: Ball mill and chemistry set (which will actually be mobile like the hand press & die.
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Proposed new Recipes:
Gunpowder = Black gunpowder+Graphite+Ammonia+Ball mill (Nearby)
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What does this mean?
I finally got the source code to accept a new object: the Ball mill, as well as built the recipe to require said ball mill in making gunpowder. However it reads the ball mill as an item only, I need to work on getting it to read like a cvd machine

Noctifer · 2015-10-18T17:54:38.000Z

Does the recipe work as a construction recipe? If so then just need to make it a furniture.

Karicter · 2015-10-18T23:13:10.000Z

I assume you mean a recipe for building the Ball mall, because I was referring to the gunpowder recipe; I have to make sure the Ball mill works properly first. However mentioning furniture seems to be my next goal, see this thread:
http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=11420.0

Noctifer · 2015-10-19T00:25:04.000Z

Oh, my bad, so gun power is down. So it appears that “crafting_pseudo_item” is a place holder furniture type to make it a requirement for furniture. This route should make it quicker by making it part of a recipe than trying to make furniture have a specific function but I think that it would not allow for “chance”. What I mean is that in a recipe the item crafted is always the same ( when you plan to implement broken casings, a recipe that creates casings will always create a type of casing.)

Random_dragon · 2015-10-19T00:27:01.000Z

I was gonna say, yeah. Using crafting psuedoitems should work fine unless you need it to be able to also drain batteries or some other resource. In which case, you can also sidestep that by adding the required fuel cost as a component, as one alternative. >.>

Noctifer · 2015-10-19T00:33:16.000Z

looking into the lard recipe showed me you could make the “broken casings” a by product and making the actual wanted item less. This would still not allow for chance but its something I guess…I guess I am getting to ahead…

Karicter · 2015-10-19T10:13:16.000Z

Working overnight, and decide to take a quick peak at the thread in case someone has some more help. See Major portions of the mod seemingly solved WITHOUT ME.

Why am I even here.

Midaychi · 2015-10-19T11:31:57.000Z

'cause solving bugs and problems is different than creating content.

Karicter · 2015-10-19T12:36:38.000Z

Suddenly I feel less useless. Thank you for the motivation. Now to actually Get Home to work on it.

Malkeus · 2015-10-19T18:13:03.000Z

[quote=“Karicter, post:18, topic:10662”]Working overnight, and decide to take a quick peak at the thread in case someone has some more help. See Major portions of the mod seemingly solved WITHOUT ME.

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Why am I even here.[/quote]

Because you had the idea and are motivated to carry it through to completion. The forum is here to support you through the process if you get stuck. I really like the idea of a ‘bullet forge’ room for my base, I’d build it detached in case of any unfortunate accidents (whether accidently blowing myself up as part of the process was possible or not).

Random_dragon · 2015-10-19T18:15:06.000Z

Aye. Plus it’s still good to have you here to bring it all together so this can be made complete. Hell, I wouldn’t mind seeing this PR’d once it’s far enough along.

123nick · 2016-01-21T21:16:12.000Z

is this mod dead?

Noctifer · 2016-01-21T21:56:36.000Z

We haven’t heard anything from Karicter for a while…