# Items not spawning

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [August 27, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841 "2013-08-27T10:01:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@Sheb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheb)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841/1 "2013-08-27T10:01:51Z")

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Minor gripe, but it seems a lot of items that you can start with don’t spawn in the game. It feels a bit silly that your survivor is apparently the only possessor of the rare pen knife artifact.

Those stuff include:  
-pen knife  
-camo tank top  
-toolbelts

I guess we should add place where they drop?

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841/2 "2013-08-27T15:35:47Z")

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I think belt rig was renamed chest rig, I’ve not seen belt rigs for a long while. Chest rig seems to have the exact same stats.  
camo tank is a good point, I’d expect a lot of those on soldier corpses and in military surpluses.  
As to penknives… I’m pretty sure I saw one drop from some random zed I battered into goop.  
one. I’d give them a chance to spawn in sports goods stores and hardware stores, but honestly do we really need it?

A toolbelt/belt rig that actually didn’t encumber your torso would be a nice addition, since y’know it’s around your waist like a belt.

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**Author:** ![ClaytonRISING](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/claytonrising/32/75_2.png) [@ClaytonRISING](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ClaytonRISING)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841/3 "2013-08-27T15:41:08Z")

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The camo tank top doesn’t make sense, we don’t actually wear those. We wouldn’t wear a tank top, any ways. We wear a tan t-shirt underneath our top jacket; not a tank top.

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**Author:** ![Sheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@Sheb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheb)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841/4 "2013-08-27T16:28:32Z")

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Well, the stuff do spawn with the bow hunter profession. And I meant pocket knives, not pen knives. They’re pretty dan good (0 volume knife). Mine was robbed by a NPC with a Saiga 12, and I could never find another one.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841/5 "2013-08-27T19:40:15Z")

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Pocket knives spawn naturally. A bit on the rare side, but they’re in there.

Look for zombie kids.

[For everything else, there’s Git.](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/2699)

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**Author:** ![Sheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@Sheb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheb)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 8:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-not-spawning/2841/6 "2013-08-28T08:02:13Z")

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Yup, so the PR being pulled on IRC, thank you!