# Item flaws during crafting

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [February 18, 2014, 9:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119 "2014-02-18T09:20:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Sanarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Sanarr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanarr)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 9:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/1 "2014-02-18T09:20:28Z")

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Hello everyone.

I have an idea that I consider good. How about of implementing of flawed crafts?

I mean we have two possible outcomes of crafting - you have succeed or you have failed. How about a third one - you have done an item but it has flaws. So you can obtain some spear which would have a higher chance of breaking, leaking tank, self-made weapon that could explode in your hands and so on (always remember to double check your homebrew explosives ) ).

Flaws could be visible (so you are aware of them and use item on your own risk) or not, so… it would cause different  
!surprise! events. Higher skill levels reduce flaw possibility, of course. And good skill let you notice previously hidden flaws or correct them (if it possible). Also there might be quality levels for crafted items, representing results from “sharpened crude piece of metal” to “masterwork sword”, but I think that it had been suggested before so it just a reminder for those who interested in concept.

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/2 "2014-02-18T16:03:58Z")

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as long as flawed explosive items result in a failure to function instead of instadeath i’m all for it.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/3 "2014-02-18T16:20:31Z")

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Certainly and interesting idea, though we might need to take a look at possibly expanding some of the ideas to have enough flaws for everything (since right now, for example, your weapon will never break in combat).

> [@HunterAlpha1](#):
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> as long as flawed explosive items result in a failure to function instead of instadeath i’m all for it.

It might, however, result in a not-quite-accurate timer. 😃

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/4 "2014-02-18T16:30:33Z")

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[quote=“i2amroy, post:3, topic:5119”]Certainly and interesting idea, though we might need to take a look at possibly expanding some of the ideas to have enough flaws for everything (since right now, for example, your weapon will never break in combat).

> [@HunterAlpha1](#):
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> as long as flawed explosive items result in a failure to function instead of instadeath i’m all for it.

It might, however, result in a not-quite-accurate timer. :D[/quote]that might now be so bad with dynamite or even C4, but a mininuke…

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**Author:** ![Sanarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Sanarr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanarr)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/5 "2014-02-18T21:53:54Z")

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I’m glad that you like the concept. There also might be some correlations between morale/focus/status levels and flaw probability (if you drunk and decide to craft C4 with well-tuned timer… ). Anyway - thanks again for supporting.

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**Author:** ![Cherry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cherry/32/230_2.png) [@Cherry](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cherry)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/6 "2014-02-19T00:14:38Z")

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Success  
Success: But item is flawed.  
Failed: No ingredients wasted.  
Failed: FUBAR

Can we disassemble the flawed item and try again from the scraps left from it?

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Scarfalot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sir_scarfalot/32/9890_2.png) [@Sir\_Scarfalot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sir_Scarfalot)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-flaws-during-crafting/5119/7 "2014-02-19T00:20:15Z")

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[quote=“Cherry, post:6, topic:5119”]Success  
Success: But item is flawed.  
Failed: No ingredients wasted.  
Failed: FUBAR

Can we disassemble the flawed item and try again from the scraps left from it?[/quote]

Well, I would say perhaps 2 different levels of flaws, one is just lightly flawed and can be disassembled (as “no ingredients wasted”, but useable?), and one is deeply flawed, nearly unusable but not a total waste?

Or maybe the item starts with damage from poor crafting?