# Is To Serve Man meant to be demoralizing for cannibals?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [February 17, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938 "2015-02-17T16:53:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@manoftron](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/manoftron)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/1 "2015-02-17T16:53:32Z")
That’s what it seems like right now. Unless it has been like that for a while and I’ve somehow not been noticing that?
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### Author:  [@ramesesniblet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ramesesniblet)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/2 "2015-02-17T20:47:26Z")
Yep, it’s been that way for a while. Fairly certain it’s intended, makes sense really. I had to eat prozac just to read it with one character.
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/3 "2015-02-17T22:23:16Z")
Pretty sure it should give them a morale boost. The comment in code explicitly says so.
Book update must have broken it.
Reading the book once gives 50 morale boost, reading it continuously gives 75 morale penalty. This is quite obviously a bug.
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### Author:  [@Rhodri](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rhodri)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/4 "2015-02-17T23:38:03Z")
Do psychopaths get demoralized for reading it as well?
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/5 "2015-02-18T01:20:55Z")
> [@Rhodri](#):
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> Do psychopaths get demoralized for reading it as well?
They probably do (the book has a negative fun stat, like it was supremely boring), but just like cannibals they should not.
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### Author:  [@Burnt\_Earth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Burnt_Earth)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/6 "2015-02-18T01:28:00Z")
A psychopath non-cannibal might still find it extremely boring, just kinda indifferent on the ethics of it. I wonder if a gourmand psychopath might get some minor moral benefit, because hey, good call on sauteing the paring with fava beans and a nice chianti for a human liver, all things considered.
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/7 "2015-02-18T01:40:37Z")
> [@Burnt Earth](#):
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> A psychopath non-cannibal might still find it extremely boring, just kinda indifferent on the ethics of it.
No, not like that. It’s fun stat is -5, the only other book this “boring” is the phone book (no book gets lower than that).
The code specifically intends cannibals, psychopaths and sapiovores to have a lot of fun from reading To Serve Man, it’s just that it doesn’t happen because bug.
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### Author:  [@Burnt\_Earth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Burnt_Earth)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/8 "2015-02-18T01:53:01Z")
> [@Coolthulhu](#):
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> [quote=“Burnt Earth, post:6, topic:8938”]A psychopath non-cannibal might still find it extremely boring, just kinda indifferent on the ethics of it.
No, not like that. It’s fun stat is -5, the only other book this “boring” is the phone book (no book gets lower than that).
The code specifically intends cannibals, psychopaths and sapiovores to have a lot of fun from reading To Serve Man, it’s just that it doesn’t happen because bug.[/quote]
Yeah, I know, I forgot what board I was posting on, sorry.
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### Author:  [@Gabriel-SE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gabriel-SE)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-to-serve-man-meant-to-be-demoralizing-for-cannibals/8938/9 "2015-02-18T17:40:38Z")
It should be fixed now, thanks for reporting.
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