# Is it possible to move without diagonally without the numpad?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [October 3, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326 "2013-10-03T03:33:01Z")
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### Author:  [@bubbadoo14](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bubbadoo14)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/1 "2013-10-03T03:33:01Z")
The reason I am wondering that is because I have a tiny little Toshiba laptop that I bring to school for notes and such, and it doesn’t have a numpad so I am wondering if it’s possible to use the keyboard for movement?
like instead of using this: 7 8 9 I could use for example like: T Y U
4 5 6 G H J
1 2 3 B N M
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### Author:  [@Weyrling](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Weyrling)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/2 "2013-10-03T03:36:31Z")
If you load up a game and go into the Help menu ‘?’ and press ‘1’ to go into the ‘key mapping’ menu, and then remap the keys however you like for any action whatsoever.
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### Author:  [@bubbadoo14](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bubbadoo14)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/3 "2013-10-03T06:09:59Z")
not to mention once you wipe out controls you can never use the arrow keys again. 😕
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/4 "2013-10-03T06:17:22Z")
oh… but I forgot.
You could use something external… like AutoHotKey. That might help it.
I never tested it but technically it should work.
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### Author:  [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 6:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/5 "2013-10-03T06:33:36Z")
You could always just use the number keys across the top. Sure it’s not great when you are doing tons of diagonal movement, but for the occasional diagonal I use the normal old number keys across the top fairly often.
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### Author:  [@bubbadoo14](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bubbadoo14)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/6 "2013-10-03T08:54:28Z")
> [@i2amroy](#):
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> You could always just use the number keys across the top. Sure it’s not great when you are doing tons of diagonal movement, but for the occasional diagonal I use the normal old number keys across the top fairly often.
I used to do that too, it’s rather annoying.
also I just found out that you can smash,examine,etc with changed keys in the experimental version.
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### Author:  [@CIB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CIB)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 9:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/7 "2013-10-03T09:43:04Z")
I started playing cata with laptop and thus learned vikeys. It’s a pretty decent way to do it IMO. If your laptop isn’t horrid, you’ll also have a numpad mapped somewhere using your special modifier key(e.g. Fn on dell laptops).
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### Author:  [@Luissen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Luissen)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 11:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-move-without-diagonally-without-the-numpad/3326/8 "2013-10-03T11:41:30Z")
\<3 VI keys