# Is it intended that players can butcher without tools?

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**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [April 21, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-intended-that-players-can-butcher-without-tools/23344 "2020-04-21T09:03:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![mentos046](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mentos046/32/11932_2.png) [@mentos046](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mentos046)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-intended-that-players-can-butcher-without-tools/23344/1 "2020-04-21T09:03:19Z")

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On 10551 (or 0.E-1011-GDB44C38) with no mods. I just finished dismembering a Zombie Cop, then remembered that I left my knife in the shelter basement. After taking a brief look through the inventory to see if there were any other items with Butchering and seeing none I made a new world, spawned in zombies via the Debug Menu, killed them off with the same, then attempted Butchery. The game informs you that your best tool has 0 Butchering, but allows you to continue anyway.

You’d think a survivor would need at least 6 unarmed to knife hand a Kevlar Hulk’s arms off, but hey, now I don’t feel so inadequate when _every_ NPC I run into is a cross between Rambo and Ip Man.