Is farming for food really worth it?

[Ruttiger]

It’s very much worth it. There’s a lot of ways to cut down on the labor intensity, firstly, you don’t need to fertilize any of the plants to make them grow, it just takes longer. Secondly, you don’t need to turn all that earth yourself, even though it’s pretty easy with a ho. If you fight a worm, just let it chase you around for a while upturning earth and then plant in that. If you’ve conquered a city with blast craters in it, you can plant in the earth around the edges of it.

The real reason situation where it’s worth it is for a second year character, and it’s best to be selective about what you are putting effort into planting. Wheat requires no preservation, for instance. Sugar beets can be turned into sugar which is useful for many things. Corn is decent because making cornmeal isn’t to terrible labor intensive. Thyme is disinfectant oil, garlic doesn’t spoil, and wild herbs are useful for any character of any caliber.

[Azrad]

As I recall, plants that are ready to harvest won’t wither away, so basically you can plant a massive amount, and only harvest the stuff you need.

[NuG]

As I recall, plants that are ready to harvest won’t wither away, so basically you can plant a massive amount, and only harvest the stuff you need.

I was wondering about that, I have just planted a couple sections on a farm that were pre-plowed where I’m holding up in as my base of operations until I can make a nicer roaming vehicle.
I remember one of my earlier runs I had forgotten I planted some stuff and came back like a year later and the plants were still there ready to be picked… I just wasn’t sure if I was getting a full yield or not since I didn’t have much experience with the farming mechanic yet.

[Benedict]

As I recall, plants that are ready to harvest won’t wither away, so basically you can plant a massive amount, and only harvest the stuff you need.

That’s a nice addition. With canning or other forms of preserving, it makes farming a lot more useful.

[DeWolf]

Don’t forget with farming you can make booze and diesel.

[Rot]

Farming has its benefits, but to re-mention points that are already said above would be redundant.

I dabbled a bit in farming, and found it to be OK as long as you eventually return to the crops, from whatever you were doing.

But most of the time I find a swamp and hunt for meat, amass a large quantity of salt and make a meat smoker, all these allow me to just preserve meat (since I usually end up playing as mutant carnivores).

[DeWolf]

I am mostly just wishing that we can have vehichle mounted fermenting vats and hydroponics basins.

[Miloch]

Last I checked crops will still become mature during winter. You just can’t plant during winter.

[DeWolf]

Last I checked crops will still become mature during winter. You just can’t plant during winter.

Yes these are the hardiest plants I have ever seen.

[CaioLugia]

Am I seeing somebody - OP of all people - bashing the farming system under my watch? Perhaps one of the greatest benefits from farming is flour. Basically, just add water and ta-da, a variety of delicious breads you could enhance with the many wild herbs, wild vegetables, tomatos and vegetable goodies you manage to plant along with all that buckwheat.

Get you hands on some salt and meat and then you can make sandwiches.
And don’t even get me started on canola and other plants important to late-game crafting recipes.

[Alec_White]

Weird reading someone that considers farming not OP as hell.

Farming is very worth it, only if you can manage to get enough seeds, which is generally one or two crops.
But if you managed to survive that long, there’s very few things in the game that can kill you.

So no, farming food is not worth it, unless you know you are able to survive for more than a year.

[Benedict]

[quote=“CaioLugia, post:12, topic:14127”]Am I seeing somebody - OP of all people - bashing the farming system under my watch? Perhaps one of the greatest benefits from farming is flour. Basically, just add water and ta-da, a variety of delicious breads you could enhance with the many wild herbs, wild vegetables, tomatos and vegetable goodies you manage to plant along with all that buckwheat.

Get you hands on some salt and meat and then you can make sandwiches.
And don’t even get me started on canola and other plants important to late-game crafting recipes.[/quote]

Not bashing it at all. It’s a rounded and fun system, and I love the addition of tractors!

I just never could be bothered to put in the required effort to farm for food when there are so many other easy ways to get nutrition (literally any forest/swamp will, in a few hours, provide days worth of fruits, eggs and meat).

[_k1]

For a default year, one needs 56 * 200 = 11200 nutrition.
3 fruit leather gives 3 * 18 = 54.
3 fruit leather requires 1 blueberry and 5 sugar.
100 suger requires 2 blueberries.
So 1 + 0.1 = 1.1 blueberries give 54 nutrition.

208 blueberries can feed a man for a year. 1 blueberry shrub gives about 4 berries and 4 seeds. One needs 52 seeds which grow to 52 shrubs which give 208 berries.

In summer, blueberry naturally appears on field in groups of 5 - 10. After visiting a couple of blueberry colonies, you will get all the seeds needed plus some berries that can be consumed right away.

Farming solves food problem in late game. Oat and buckwheat are also good economic plant, but the seeds take some effort to find.

[DeWolf]

Buckwheat with sufficient survival you can craft into seeds I don’t know about oats.

[Benedict]

Buckwheat is easy enough to find in woods. Just examine 30 odd bushes and you’re bound to get 5-10.

[deoxy]

Buckwheat is easy enough to find in woods. Just examine 30 odd bushes and you’re bound to get 5-10.

Depends on the time of year. I don’t think I’ve EVER found any in spring, exceedingly rarely in winter (like once or twice ever), and very rarely in summer. It’s only common in autumn.

[DeWolf]

For me I only find buckwheat during the summer, as well as blackberries. Here is how I have found it.
Spring:Wild veg, Wild herbs, mug wort, thyme(occasionally), eggs and random junk.
Summer: Same as above except now you also find buckwheat, blackberries and all the shrooms (exception maybe the hallucinogenic ones)
Autumn: Same as spring except now with all the shrooms except the poisonous ones.
Winter:“JUNK”

[Benedict]

[quote=“Benedict, post:17, topic:14127”]Buckwheat is easy enough to find in woods. Just examine 30 odd bushes and you’re bound to get 5-10.

Depends on the time of year. I don’t think I’ve EVER found any in spring, exceedingly rarely in winter (like once or twice ever), and very rarely in summer. It’s only common in autumn.[/quote]

I can’t stop getting it in summer. Admittedly never found any in spring, but I assumed it was to do with my survival level, rather than the season.

[deoxy]

[quote=“deoxy, post:18, topic:14127”][quote=“Benedict, post:17, topic:14127”]Buckwheat is easy enough to find in woods. Just examine 30 odd bushes and you’re bound to get 5-10.

Depends on the time of year. I don’t think I’ve EVER found any in spring, exceedingly rarely in winter (like once or twice ever), and very rarely in summer. It’s only common in autumn.[/quote]

I can’t stop getting it in summer. Admittedly never found any in spring, but I assumed it was to do with my survival level, rather than the season.[/quote]

I haven’t updated in a while - they must have changed it.

[TheFlame52]

[quote="§k, post:15, topic:14127"]For a default year, one needs 56 * 200 = 11200 nutrition.
3 fruit leather gives 3 * 18 = 54.
3 fruit leather requires 1 blueberry and 5 sugar.
100 sugar requires 2 blueberries.
So 1 + 0.1 = 1.1 blueberries give 54 nutrition.

208 blueberries can feed a man for a year. 1 blueberry shrub gives about 4 berries and 4 seeds. One needs 52 seeds which grow to 52 shrubs which give 208 berries.

In summer, blueberry naturally appears on field in groups of 5 - 10. After visiting a couple of blueberry colonies, you will get all the seeds needed plus some berries that can be consumed right away.

Farming solves food problem in late game. Oat and buckwheat are also good economic plant, but the seeds take some effort to find.[/quote]
MMR is so old, he comes from a time when skills weren’t capped at 10. Due to that and my habit of butchering every zombie I see, MMR’s survival skill is at like 50. I once harvested two strawberry bushes and got ~300 berries. Are you telling me that I found enough food to feed a man for a year and a half!?