# Idea board "survival"

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [June 9, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306 "2019-06-09T20:53:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/1 "2019-06-09T20:53:20Z")

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similar to my survivalist tricks board this is mostly to chat, improve and work on ideas.  
!. log furniture. simple furniture using mostly cut logs and rope to take the place of simple furniture. log table log chair. as an example. a log table is 3 logs. two cuts in half taking the 4 legs and 1 cut in half to form the table. with 2 or so ropes to hold it all together with the chair is just a log cut to work as a simple stump chair.  
2 Stone nails. a makeshift nail system. would not be able to be a replacement on normal nail furniture but could be used to make a more medieval style of furniture or used in recipes where nails are ammo or something similar.

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**Author:** ![mlangsdorf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mlangsdorf/32/2462_2.png) [@mlangsdorf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mlangsdorf)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/2 "2019-06-09T21:33:49Z")

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You can implement furniture constructions in JSON, so why don’t you contribute some of these to the game? [Guide to 1st time contributors](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/wiki/Guide-to-adding-new-content-to-CDDA-for-first-time-contributors) will give you the basics of JSON editing.

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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/3 "2019-06-09T21:35:05Z")

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I may try at some point. but this is also for improving the ideas.  
I am a firm believer in that old saying it sounded better in my head. so these are to also help impove how a idea sounds and stuff

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**Author:** ![TheZoneWizard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thezonewizard/32/1397_2.png) [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/4 "2019-06-09T21:53:16Z")

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Stone nails won’t work. They break to easy. However. Wood nails work well. So long as the hole is drilled for the wooden nail to pass through. Using another log to hammer the nail through the hole in each piece of wood. Nails the 2 pieces of wood together.

Both parts require the hole for the wooden peg/nail to be drilled first. You can do this with a sufficiently sharp enough knife. Stone…heh, maybe for game purposes. But a stone blade would be slow to do this in order to avoid snapping the stone. It takes about an hour per connection including the wood nail, using a stone knife.

Metal blades without much worry of breaking the blade wouldn’t take as long.

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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/5 "2019-06-09T21:56:07Z")

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ah fair point. thanks I thought stone nails would be sturdy

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**Author:** ![TheZoneWizard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thezonewizard/32/1397_2.png) [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/6 "2019-06-09T21:59:47Z")

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Sadly not. Depends on the stone of course. Marble would break, but not as easy as other forms of stone.

Wood being fiberous is oddly a better type of material to use. Uneven wooden nails with splinters and such are still able to be hammered through a hole to make a connection rather sturdy. Go figure. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/7 "2019-06-09T22:16:11Z")

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it woud still need its own furniture style to prevent disasable problem. so you don’t get nails when you used wooden nails

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**Author:** ![TheZoneWizard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thezonewizard/32/1397_2.png) [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/8 "2019-06-09T22:21:55Z")

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This is true. Primitive recipe–\> no nails

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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/9 "2019-06-09T22:50:48Z")

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but see this I what I mean its mostly for Idea work. to help impove and share ideas

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**Author:** ![JayThirtySeven](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/jaythirtyseven/32/2318_2.png) [@JayThirtySeven](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JayThirtySeven)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/10 "2019-06-10T18:36:28Z")

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Could lash things together with rope, string, or withered plants. Many makeshift tool and weapon recipes already work this way.

Also, a lot of primitive construction uses mud or clay to help stick things together and fill gaps. Resin is a good material for this as well.

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**Author:** ![crazykiddeath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/crazykiddeath/32/5709_2.png) [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/11 "2019-06-10T18:43:03Z")

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A hammock maybe? made with long/heavy sticks + makeshift ropes? something you can set up and take down like the campbed.

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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/12 "2019-06-10T20:29:05Z")

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could work but would need a max two long sticks or pointy sticks as well. max since one or both ends could be tied to something else like two trees or a wall and stick

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**Author:** ![TheZoneWizard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thezonewizard/32/1397_2.png) [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/13 "2019-06-17T12:52:12Z")

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Primitive recipes should always take more timethan any standard variant. What would take 10 minutes may take 2 hours.

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**Author:** ![Umbra.Animo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/umbra.animo/32/3258_2.png) [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/14 "2019-06-17T16:10:14Z")

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agreed, the reason I would say they should exist is just to add a sort of stage system for what the player can build. since you don’t always start close to any buildings having options for primitive construction would be a nice idea. a few times I have spawned miles away from and usable buildings (often still find a ton of missile silos but with turrets I can’t exactly get close

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**Author:** ![TheZoneWizard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thezonewizard/32/1397_2.png) [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/15 "2019-06-18T23:31:33Z")

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Another idea that is possible is using random felled wood in placeof a hammer. You can use a stone to “sharpen” a bit of wood while using the cheese wedge shape to split more wood as much as you need. This won’t let you cut trees down. But you can use a technique called Batoning. Often people use this method with a large metal knife. But it is possible with primitive methods as described. Youtube has a bunch of crazy people that tell you all about the world ending. But some have actual skill sets despite being batsh!t crazy lol

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**Author:** ![The\_32-bit\_guy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/the_32-bit_guy/32/7222_2.png) [@The\_32-bit\_guy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_32-bit_guy)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/16 "2019-10-29T14:12:27Z")

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I think wooden dowels would be better then stone nails.

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**Author:** ![bruhmoment32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bruhmoment32/32/7524_2.png) [@bruhmoment32](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bruhmoment32)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-board-survival/20306/17 "2019-11-02T17:22:59Z")

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an idea comes to mind of being able to make something like traditional japanese wooden structures, that use only joints, no nails, this would be an interesting choice for people with really high fabrication skills