# I want the time back

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588 "2016-09-26T02:28:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![flergh\_666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d6d6ee/32.png) [@flergh\_666](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/flergh_666)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/1 "2016-09-26T02:28:20Z")

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…that I spent downloading this. Bereft of purpose, point, objectives, or any feeling of reward or enjoyment. Because it’s so utterly beyond  
intuitive mechanics even for a lifelong gamer & roguelike enthusiast, I had read countless tutorials & watched YouTube videos just to START a game.  
I thought surely such complicated game-play had to imply commensurate depth & an ultimately satisfying experience -= eventually. Nope, just a continual building frustration & awareness of an ever-increasing list of activities preferable to this game, such as holding my breath until I faint or die, or gauging an eye out with a spoon.  
I just can’t believe anyone anywhere actually spends time on this. Have fun. Or whatever y’all get out of this.

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**Author:** ![Zilenan91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Zilenan91](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zilenan91)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/2 "2016-09-26T03:22:10Z")

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That tends to be how it goes. If you spent more time prepping to play the game rather than actually trying to figure it out you can just burn yourself out before it’s even begun.

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**Author:** ![Jarlaxlejr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Jarlaxlejr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jarlaxlejr)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/3 "2016-09-26T03:40:08Z")

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> [@flergh\_666](#):
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> Have fun. Or whatever y’all get out of this.

You mean !!!FUN!!!

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/4 "2016-09-26T03:44:38Z")

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Back in my time we would start the game by just checking keybinds.  
What kind of a shit-tier “roguelike enthusiast” has a problem with DDA?

I blame roguelites for teaching kids that Bindings of Isaac and Faster Than Light are the same genre as Poschengband and Nethack.

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**Author:** ![saltmummy626](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/saltmummy626/32/300_2.png) [@saltmummy626](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/saltmummy626)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/5 "2016-09-26T03:58:26Z")

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[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:4, topic:12588”]Back in my time we would start the game by just checking keybinds.  
What kind of a shit-tier “roguelike enthusiast” has a problem with DDA?

I blame roguelites for teaching kids that Bindings of Isaac and Faster Than Light are the same genre as Poschengband and Nethack.[/quote]  
Don’t forget rogue legacy and teleglitch.

> [@flergh\_666](#):
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> _abuse directed at player base due to an inability to understand or learn how to use the ? key to check keybindings or to ask simple questions on these forums_

Good thing you didn’t pay anything for it or invest more than a couple minutes to it. I hope you find something more your style, perhaps something made by tiger electronics or one of those pegs babies stack rings on.

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**Author:** ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/6 "2016-09-26T05:31:22Z")

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It is what it is, and we’ve having fun making it even if it’s far from complete. I’d figured getting into the game, the fact it’s a massive ongoing community WIP was kinda evident, but perhaps not.

It’d be nice to come up with a main plotline to follow thru until the end, but with the game the way it is, adding such a finale would leave a taste in the mouth like any bethesda main quest, which we usually just ignore anyway by the second playthru.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/7 "2016-09-26T10:32:34Z")

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Well this is a nice troll bait, huh?

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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 11:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/8 "2016-09-26T11:07:24Z")

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No. Your time is ours now, and we’re keeping it!

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**Author:** ![Findulidas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@Findulidas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Findulidas)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 11:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/9 "2016-09-26T11:27:57Z")

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I knew this was a boring thread and yet I clicked it. Must be something wrong with me.

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**Author:** ![Shopkeeper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/shopkeeper/32/453_2.png) [@Shopkeeper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shopkeeper)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/10 "2016-09-26T12:09:51Z")

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Take a break mate, get yourself a bannana or something. Y’know some potassium to balance out all that salt.

Then come back to the game in a couple months with a fresh set of eyes. It’s what I did and I’ve been stuck here ever since.

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**Author:** ![Grandpuh\_Ty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Grandpuh\_Ty](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grandpuh_Ty)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/11 "2016-09-26T12:35:39Z")

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The apocalypse is hard, man, it’s hard.

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**Author:** ![\_k1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/_k1/32/1335_2.png) [@\_k1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/_k1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/12 "2016-09-26T15:07:18Z")

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Dear OP mon ami you should try Omega the roguelike.

There’s no let’s play, no wiki, nor spoiler to read, or no time to waste until your horse turns into a chaffincher.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/13 "2016-09-26T15:24:03Z")

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![](http://i.imgur.com/BVUsBjo.jpg)

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**Author:** ![ApatheticExcuse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/apatheticexcuse/32/433_2.png) [@ApatheticExcuse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ApatheticExcuse)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/14 "2016-09-26T15:52:32Z")

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Assuming you’re not just here to whine, I’d suggest you go back and download base 0.C or one of the builds up to about 230something. The game was a lot more about just having fun and fucking around then than it is now, and I personally prefer playing that to the new experimentals at the moment.

There’s a few other suggestions I could make, but that would be the biggest one, and I’m kinda guessing this sort of game might not be for you anyway.

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**Author:** ![BeerBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/15 "2016-09-26T16:29:25Z")

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[quote=“flergh\_666, post:1, topic:12588”]…that I spent downloading this. Bereft of purpose, point, objectives, or any feeling of reward or enjoyment. Because it’s so utterly beyond  
intuitive mechanics even for a lifelong gamer & roguelike enthusiast, I had read countless tutorials & watched YouTube videos just to START a game.  
I thought surely such complicated game-play had to imply commensurate depth & an ultimately satisfying experience -= eventually. Nope, just a continual building frustration & awareness of an ever-increasing list of activities preferable to this game, such as holding my breath until I faint or die, or gauging an eye out with a spoon.  
I just can’t believe anyone anywhere actually spends time on this. Have fun. Or whatever y’all get out of this.[/quote]  
HMMM.

Dwarf Fortress might be more up your alley. Easier. Less steep learning curve. My 9yo nephew learned to play it in about a day. Although he has like an IQ of 140. I tried to show Cata to him, and he just said “That sounds like a game for old people. Mom and dad are in the kitchen. You could go be old with them.”

…I’m still not sure if he was being deviously snarky or just helpful.

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**Author:** ![Zilenan91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Zilenan91](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zilenan91)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/16 "2016-09-26T17:30:41Z")

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Yeah df is super easy, it’s a little joke in the roguelike community that it’s the Call of Duty of roguelikes.

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**Author:** ![Fourty\_two](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@Fourty\_two](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fourty_two)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/17 "2016-09-27T09:57:15Z")

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[quote=“flergh\_666, post:1, topic:12588”]…that I spent downloading this. Bereft of purpose, point, objectives, or any feeling of reward or enjoyment. Because it’s so utterly beyond  
intuitive mechanics even for a lifelong gamer & roguelike enthusiast, I had read countless tutorials & watched YouTube videos just to START a game.  
I thought surely such complicated game-play had to imply commensurate depth & an ultimately satisfying experience -= eventually. Nope, just a continual building frustration & awareness of an ever-increasing list of activities preferable to this game, such as holding my breath until I faint or die, or gauging an eye out with a spoon.  
I just can’t believe anyone anywhere actually spends time on this. Have fun. Or whatever y’all get out of this.[/quote]

You want your time back? Why did you ever bother to make a account just to make a single post? Ever consider asking for help?

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/18 "2016-09-27T16:11:00Z")

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Ha. Well, I was somehow expecting either funnier flames, or someone who picked up watch first play-through and then didn’t later play-troughs and just wanted non celestial time keeping again.

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**Author:** ![pisskop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/pisskop/32/1327_2.png) [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/19 "2016-09-27T18:42:32Z")

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im loling at the idea that some kids idea of a roguelike is Dick Holder’s Big Day Out.

Im juust old and nerdy enough to have played late 80s computer games as a kidde.

Man, Dangerous Dan, some polygon game where i coud kick corpes, some digdug 2d roguething.

somebody sit me down and explain how starting a new game was hard or even unintuitive.  
maybe too many options? but… but like then how do these people play games like real rpgs?

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**Author:** ![X-PLODE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/d07c76/32.png) [@X-PLODE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/X-PLODE)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-the-time-back/12588/20 "2016-09-27T18:58:50Z")

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It was very satisfying to set the correct channel/irq/Hz/dma/port/reso/kb+mouse/memory/colordepth way back then.

Now everything uses polygons and sdl and java, very disappointing future.

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