# How to get your dodge skill from 0 to awesome in a very short time
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [November 25, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212 "2013-11-25T05:17:21Z")
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### Author:  [@Wuzzy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wuzzy)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/1 "2013-11-25T05:17:21Z")
Okay, I want to share with you a way how to get your dodge skill from 0 to [size=24pt]awesome[/size] in a very short time.
This strategy works for 0.9 and was not tested for other versions:
[ol][li]Create a character who has 20 INT, 0 dodge and is a fast learner. The rest is up to you.[/li]
[li]This step is optional: Find or make, then wield a very basic weapon. Primarily for dodging.[/li]
[li]Find one sewer rat, and only one.[/li]
[li]Let it attack you and just let it happen. The sewer rat will just ALWAYS miss. Wait until your focus has a very low value[/li]
[li]See how your dodge skill has just increased by a couple of levels in a few game hours![/li]
[li]Get rid of the sewer rat or just run away and try to increase your moral back to 100 then. Do whatever else you want in this time.[/li]
[li]When your moral \>=100, repeat from step 3 on[/li][/ol]
I managed to increase to level 23 dodge till summer!
Finding a sewer rat is relatively easy now, since they also spawn as singles on the surface. Funnily, this strategy does not seem to work for any other monsters I have encountered.
I know, INT 20 + fast learner is destined to learn things crazily fast. But the speed you learn dodge this way is simply not comparable to the learning speed of anything else. So I think there is something really, really wrong here. I have not tested it, but the problem should also be observable for lower INT values and without being a fast learner, just weaker.
Things become even more fucked-up if you manage to find a monster which never hits you but you TOO never or almost never hit it. With a very similar strategy you can skyrocket both dodge and melee skill.
Discussion about this phenomenom is very welcome. 🙂
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### Author:  [@ClusterDSA](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ClusterDSA)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/2 "2013-11-25T05:28:23Z")
Don’t need high int or fast learning for this, and you don’t need to have your focus up either. I did this with my current character right off the bat with only 11 int. Just pulled the sewer rat into my evac shelter and held down 5. By 12:00PM of the first day my dodge was 12.
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### Author:  [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/3 "2013-11-25T05:30:02Z")
They destroy your pants when I do this.
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### Author:  [@Inadequate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inadequate)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/4 "2013-11-25T05:36:36Z")
The actual best way involves having a pack of sewer rats attack you in your sleep with a pipe equipped. I went from zero to 50 in record time. That said I pretty much play a pure ranged character so dodge is more or less irrelevant to me.
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### Author:  [@Wuzzy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wuzzy)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/5 "2013-11-25T05:50:27Z")
> [@ClusterDSA](#):
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> Don’t need high int or fast learning for this, and you don’t need to have your focus up either. I did this with my current character right off the bat with only 11 int. Just pulled the sewer rat into my evac shelter and held down 5. By 12:00PM of the first day my dodge was 12.
As I said, I already suspected this. Good to have someone confirming this.
> [@Inadequate](#):
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> The actual best way involves having a pack of sewer rats attack you in your sleep with a pipe equipped. I went from zero to 50 in record time.
Holy shit!
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### Author:  [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/6 "2013-11-25T14:51:20Z")
N00bs
I train my dodging with graboids
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### Author:  [@Nighthawk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nighthawk)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/7 "2013-11-25T19:29:34Z")
Seems like this ought to be reported, but until it’s fixed, let’s abuse it as much as possible. 😃
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### Author:  [@Inadequate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inadequate)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/8 "2013-11-25T19:33:21Z")
Dodging in your sleep has been a known bug for a while, I don’t know when they’ll get around to fixing it. As for rebalancing rats in general, I think that’s being worked on too.
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### Author:  [@freezerbunny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/freezerbunny)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/9 "2013-11-26T01:00:22Z")
> [@Nighthawk](#):
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> Seems like this ought to be reported, but until it’s fixed, let’s abuse it as much as possible. 😃
Dodging in your sleep? SEEMS FINE TO ME.
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### Author:  [@The\_Slime](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Slime)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/10 "2013-11-26T01:03:53Z")
Maybe you’re rolling over in your sleep and it causes the monster to miss, like something out of a cartoon. 😛
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/11 "2013-11-26T01:45:01Z")
Holy shit The Slime.
/] brohoof
I love your pic.
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### Author:  [@The\_Slime](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Slime)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/12 "2013-11-26T01:54:16Z")
I’ve had that sitting on my Imgur for the longest time, thought it would be nice to use it again. (\
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### Author:  [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-your-dodge-skill-from-0-to-awesome-in-a-very-short-time/4212/13 "2013-11-26T18:09:25Z")
get fast learner and a decent int is good. above 14 skill you use 2 points per skill point. its not worth it. you can get your skills up pretty quick in a few days. it really isnt that hard.