# How to chop down a tree with a hand axe?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [October 16, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742 "2016-10-16T18:14:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rafe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e495f1/32.png) [@Rafe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rafe)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742/1 "2016-10-16T18:14:32Z")

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I noticed recetly, when trying to start a “in the forest” game, that the axe I can craft can’t cut down trees, since they need lvl2 tree cutting tool, and the rustic axe is only lvl1.

What can I do to cut trees wihtout going to a city and finding a better axe there?

In this game, my character can walk for days without finding a single house.

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**Author:** ![Hibou](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/hibou/32/1330_2.png) [@Hibou](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hibou)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742/2 "2016-10-16T19:28:09Z")

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In the latest experimental, you can craft a stone axe so long as you have level 3 survival and level 1 construction, as well as a book containing that recipe. It used to be autolearn, but I guess that changed. That axe has level 2 tree cutting and is the easiest to craft in the forest. There’s also the copper axe that requires level 4 fabrication and level 1 construction, but it takes copper as well as a recipe book.

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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742/3 "2016-10-17T00:21:30Z")

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The stone axe really should be autolearned. That sounds like a developer oversight to me.

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742/4 "2016-10-17T01:56:53Z")

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They are, it’s just that one of the recent crafting updates must have broken autolearn.