# How much painkillers/time do you need for bionics?

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**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743 "2018-01-06T19:35:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![redxlaser15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/redxlaser15/32/1573_2.png) [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/1 "2018-01-06T19:35:24Z")

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So basically, I want a list of how much painkillers you need and how much time you need to waste. So for example, you need X amount of aspirin and need to wait for X amount of time. You need X amount of codeine and need to wait for X amount of time.  
I’m terrible at guesstimating, (and probably lots of others too) and as such this should maybe probably help out lots of people. Ideally format it similar to whats below so it’s nice and easy to read:  
-Aspirin: X amount/ X time  
-Morphine X amount/ X time  
ect.

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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/2 "2018-01-06T19:39:54Z")

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I’ve only ever used Morphine for it since the requirement was implemented. It takes 2 doses and takes around 40 minutes to reach full strength, if I recall correctly.

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**Author:** ![redxlaser15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/redxlaser15/32/1573_2.png) [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/3 "2018-01-06T19:45:14Z")

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I have yet to find said morphine, which is exactly why I hoped someone to bring up a longer more detailed list. That said, even that small amount of info is useful, so thanks. Just a side thing to mention, while it’s a pain I do actually like that they added that system because it makes sense! To install the bionics you need to cut into your flesh, and it goes so far as to being your noggin, or straight into your eyeballs. So ya, that’s gotta hurt.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/4 "2018-01-06T19:54:46Z")

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I usually use one morphine, and one codeine, and that does the trick without expending a second unit of morphine, since it’s in short supply.

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**Author:** ![ChunkOfMeat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/chunkofmeat/32/11049_2.png) [@ChunkOfMeat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ChunkOfMeat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/5 "2018-01-06T20:00:25Z")

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I’ve used codeine for it . I takes 2 doses and use shortcut “a” - install bionic. The timeout should appear in the message.

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**Author:** ![psyxypher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/psyxypher/32/11778_2.png) [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/6 "2018-01-06T20:02:45Z")

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In order to be numb enough for CBMs, you need to take enough Painkiller for a -10% reduction to speed. Heroin is really good at this, as it gives you -9% at full strength. You could take 1 Heroin and 1 Codeine if you needed to.

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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/7 "2018-01-06T20:04:28Z")

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Huh, it only takes 2 codeine? I should definitely do that rather than the morphine, the required 2 doses takes you perilously close to the lethal limit.

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**Author:** ![redxlaser15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/redxlaser15/32/1573_2.png) [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/8 "2018-01-06T20:37:22Z")

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Okay, that’s for the info so far. BTW, remember to NOT take 5 codeine in a row. It’s a bad idea to say the least.

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**Author:** ![proxiehunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e68b1a/32.png) [@proxiehunter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/proxiehunter)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/9 "2018-01-06T20:43:54Z")

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Poppy painkiller is a lot easier to come by than most other pain meds and seems to take three, possibly two if your character is a lightweight.

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**Author:** ![Aggregate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/aggregate/32/1484_2.png) [@Aggregate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aggregate)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/10 "2018-01-06T22:02:09Z")

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I’ve always (well, before getting Sensory Dulling) taken two Oxycodone and waited an hour.

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**Author:** ![tarburst98](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/tarburst98/32/1355_2.png) [@tarburst98](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/tarburst98)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/11 "2018-01-06T22:29:09Z")

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yeah 3 poppy and wait an hour. not like poppy is hard to get.

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**Author:** ![redxlaser15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/redxlaser15/32/1573_2.png) [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-painkillers-time-do-you-need-for-bionics/14743/12 "2018-01-06T22:34:32Z")

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I game seems to be bugging out or something, since I took two codeine, waited how long the game said to, then got stuck. It seemed to permanently tell me it would take minutes to reach necessary effect, yet I can wait and extra five or even 30 minutes and it still says the same thing. Any help?