# How much crap do I need to keep warm?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [March 25, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585 "2013-03-25T22:36:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/1 "2013-03-25T22:36:00Z")
It’s second day, 48F, and I’m wearing army helm, cargo pants, lab coat, backpack, bandana, light gloves, winter boots, two t shirts, leather pants, kevlar vest, two dust masks and a filter mask, two pairs of medical gloves, and safety glasses, and I’ve lost sensation in my mouth, arms, hands and torso, and in order of encumberance: 2, 0, 10, 7, 1, 5, 5, 2, and under effects, my torso, head, arms, hands, legs, and feet are cold, and my face and hands are frostnip’ed… at 48F. And to top it off under speed I have “Cold legso”. This is on .3 prerelease with a new character.
Storing warmth in a byte going negative or something? Cause I can’t imagine what the hell is going on. I’ll back-up the game and save directory in case anyone wants it.
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### Author:  [@Jihelu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jihelu)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/2 "2013-03-25T22:40:17Z")
[quote=“pingpong, post:1, topic:585”]It’s second day, 48F, and I’m wearing army helm, cargo pants, lab coat, backpack, bandana, light gloves, winter boots, two t shirts, leather pants, kevlar vest, two dust masks and a filter mask, two pairs of medical gloves, and safety glasses, and I’ve lost sensation in my mouth, arms, hands and torso, and in order of encumberance: 2, 0, 10, 7, 1, 5, 5, 2, and under effects, my torso, head, arms, hands, legs, and feet are cold, and my face and hands are frostnip’ed… at 48F. And to top it off under speed I have “Cold legso”. This is on .3 prerelease with a new character.
Storing warmth in a byte going negative or something? Cause I can’t imagine what the hell is going on. I’ll back-up the game and save directory in case anyone wants it.[/quote]
Are you playing 0.3?
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/3 "2013-03-25T22:41:07Z")
“This is on .3 prerelease with a new character.”
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### Author:  [@Jihelu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jihelu)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/4 "2013-03-25T22:42:48Z")
> [@pingpong](#):
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> “This is on .3 prerelease with a new character.”
Prerelease? I thought we had an actual version.
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/5 "2013-03-25T22:43:54Z")
Nope, and before anyone complains, no, my character was not a template, I wiped the folder and it’s only the main Windows executable off the site.
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### Author:  [@Jihelu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jihelu)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/6 "2013-03-25T22:46:55Z")
Dont know
I had a backpack, army pants, winter hat, and socks and I was fine,
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/7 "2013-03-25T22:49:40Z")
And now my face is covered in blisters and I have -80% speed.
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/8 "2013-03-25T22:52:35Z")
And “cold legsoning -22%” under speed… maybe it’s something to do with the Thunderstorm or coldxwet interaction.
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### Author:  [@Jihelu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jihelu)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/9 "2013-03-25T22:53:59Z")
No idea. Your getting fucked though.
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/10 "2013-03-25T22:59:00Z")
No, getting fucked is when the counter for “your hands are going numb” is going up 2-3x per turn. I checked, turns out medical gloves provide no warmth, but it’s still 46F inside the evac shelter and my hands are frostnipped, though my body is now comfortable, though the food poisoning (actually water) raised my pain to 40 in ~5 turns.
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/11 "2013-03-25T23:33:55Z")
Managed to make it to the next night, once again all of my body, even my feet covered in winter boots, are cold at 45F. Is there any chance making a new character would fix this? And is there a ruin-player flag because it’s been raining for two days straight and I can’t get anything done outside with having to sleep and wake up from cold or be wet and too sad to craft anything (unless I maybe sleep in the sewage plant and then set it on fire)
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### Author:  [@Reservoir](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Reservoir)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/12 "2013-03-26T01:05:35Z")
Try to make it to winter. 3 winter coats over my shoulders, Im getting frostbites. Temperature’s fucked. Ill may go back to .20…
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### Author:  [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/13 "2013-03-26T02:14:08Z")
I’m on day 3, and my hands, feet, and mouth are getting more frostbitten, and I’m not wet, and it’s 46F out. I literally can’t travel out enough from my current base of operations to gather any more clothing, as zombies overpower anywhere I get close to, I dropped my weapon apparently in the last wolf/wasp attacks, and all of my limbs are exposed to the elements, as almost all of my clothes have been beaten off me, not even the winter boots can keep my feet from getting frostbitten in spring.
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### Author:  [@CyberGenesis](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CyberGenesis)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/14 "2013-03-26T02:38:06Z")
The only issues i’ve had with cold is from getting wet once. Even several days later in 50-ish temp and dry, i still dip to cold every now and then randomly
I had a fire, after sleeping outside and it started raining (damn weather), and could never right my temp afterward, spent 2 days inside in 50ish temp and dry to no avail… and i’d still dip to cold every so often wandering outside during cloudy weather.
Removing and re-wearing all my clothes seems to reset it though.
There are multiple posts about cold issues, i have a feeling there’s a small bit of conditional checking that isn’t getting done as often as it should be (or at all)
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### Author:  [@Wuzzy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wuzzy)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-much-crap-do-i-need-to-keep-warm/585/15 "2013-03-27T20:51:20Z")
It looks like that [this](https://github.com/TheDarklingWolf/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/256) finally fixes the problem.
Yay!