How do I mycus? (spoilers)

KA101 · 2014-10-12T19:08:15.000Z

[quote=“Crashdandicoot, post:67, topic:7534”]
I understand the nature of the speed penalty sure and that’s fair but it just felt like the corresponding defence bonus was pretty minimal is all. As for the idea of making an ambassador type mutation that’s pretty cool actually, especially if you can eventually convince NPCs to accept the mycus and join up with you.

Also i’m not sure what you mean by Mycus Gardener, what would such a mutation involve? Or was this a recently added one and should i get the latest build or something?

detahramet:

You are aware that eating a mycus fruit spreads a bunch of fungus and more mycus bushes around you? Right?

That’s only for the initial mycus fruit actually, all subsequent fruits just give you nutrition, mutations etc. You have to make your own fruits by converting forests and stuff.[/quote]

Ambassador would work through a combination of speech/barter, growing marloss fruit on xyr person and distributing it, and possibly more direct methods.

Gardener would be able to manually deploy fungal units such as tendrils, blossoms, etc, and have recipes to seed towers/giant blossoms/spires. Build properly to please the Mycus (and thereby yourself–I need to work up a morale mechanic for that) and eventually get portals open to bring more of it through. And develop larger blossom spires capable of seeding the region (localized weather: spore rain, once we get localized weather) and eventually insert into the upper atmosphere and jet-stream the haze worldwide.

I added a localized marlossify to the apples in latest because folks kept treating 'em like funberries. I’m thinking I’ll make mutating Mycus stuff a rare chance when sleeping or something along that line, and remove the mutation & marlossify effects altogether.

TheFlame52 · 2014-10-12T19:31:38.000Z

[quote=“KA101, post:68, topic:7534”]Ambassador would work through a combination of speech/barter, growing marloss fruit on xyr person and distributing it, and possibly more direct methods.

Gardener would be able to manually deploy fungal units such as tendrils, blossoms, etc, and have recipes to seed towers/giant blossoms/spires. Build properly to please the Mycus (and thereby yourself–I need to work up a morale mechanic for that) and eventually get portals open to bring more of it through. And develop larger blossom spires capable of seeding the region (localized weather: spore rain, once we get localized weather) and eventually insert into the upper atmosphere and jet-stream the haze worldwide.

I added a localized marlossify to the apples in latest because folks kept treating 'em like funberries. I’m thinking I’ll make mutating Mycus stuff a rare chance when sleeping or something along that line, and remove the mutation & marlossify effects altogether.[/quote]
All of that sound pretty good to me, especially that last bit. Time to update to the latest experimental!

KA101 · 2014-10-12T19:53:51.000Z

[quote=“TheFlame52, post:69, topic:7534”][quote=“KA101, post:68, topic:7534”]Ambassador would work through a combination of speech/barter, growing marloss fruit on xyr person and distributing it, and possibly more direct methods.

Gardener would be able to manually deploy fungal units such as tendrils, blossoms, etc, and have recipes to seed towers/giant blossoms/spires. Build properly to please the Mycus (and thereby yourself–I need to work up a morale mechanic for that) and eventually get portals open to bring more of it through. And develop larger blossom spires capable of seeding the region (localized weather: spore rain, once we get localized weather) and eventually insert into the upper atmosphere and jet-stream the haze worldwide.

I added a localized marlossify to the apples in latest because folks kept treating 'em like funberries. I’m thinking I’ll make mutating Mycus stuff a rare chance when sleeping or something along that line, and remove the mutation & marlossify effects altogether.[/quote]
All of that sound pretty good to me, especially that last bit. Time to update to the latest experimental![/quote]

Not yet. KA101 has several other things he does, including shock horror non-DDA things too, and has not actually coded any of that yet. The last bit might go in his current mutation PR. Others will take some doing.

TheFlame52 · 2014-10-12T21:03:06.000Z

i got feeder and i’m thirsty but i can’t drink water shit better eat some mycus fruits

KA101 · 2014-10-12T21:05:35.000Z

TheFlame52:

i got feeder and i’m thirsty but i can’t drink water shit better eat some mycus fruits

We do not risk taking that contaminant–however small the dose–into ourselves. The humans risked it, and are now mere puppets. Our fruit is safe and effective.

Zaylin · 2014-10-12T21:58:56.000Z

People are probably wolfing the fruits down once they get the controlled spore production, anyway, though, since it’s so metabolically taxing, and really, what grey-fungused local guide wouldn’t be spreading beautiful spores at every opportunity?

TheFlame52 · 2014-10-12T22:10:58.000Z

KA101:

We do not risk taking that contaminant–however small the dose–into ourselves. The humans risked it, and are now mere puppets. Our fruit is safe and effective.

Zaylin:

People are probably wolfing the fruits down once they get the controlled spore production, anyway, though, since it’s so metabolically taxing, and really, what grey-fungused local guide wouldn’t be spreading beautiful spores at every opportunity?

I’m sorry guys, I’ll never doubt Mother Mycus again. Plus I got Mycus Identity so things are going along well.

Is taking down a blossom beneficial for me at this point? I figure between playing my role and the fact that I have plenty of mycus fruits, no.

KA101 · 2014-10-12T22:49:14.000Z

TheFlame52:

[quote=“KA101, post:72, topic:7534”]We do not risk taking that contaminant–however small the dose–into ourselves. The humans risked it, and are now mere puppets. Our fruit is safe and effective.

Zaylin:

People are probably wolfing the fruits down once they get the controlled spore production, anyway, though, since it’s so metabolically taxing, and really, what grey-fungused local guide wouldn’t be spreading beautiful spores at every opportunity?

I’m sorry guys, I’ll never doubt Mother Mycus again. Plus I got Mycus Identity so things are going along well.

Is taking down a blossom beneficial for me at this point? I figure between playing my role and the fact that I have plenty of mycus fruits, no.[/quote]

Not unless it’s killing your framerate. The seeds from marloss flowers can be planted effectively now that you’re a Mycus, though.

TheFlame52 · 2014-10-12T22:50:58.000Z

What does planting them do?

KA101 · 2014-10-12T22:53:14.000Z

TheFlame52:

What does planting them do?

Churn up some dirt and see!

Zaylin · 2014-10-13T01:46:12.000Z

A nice way to lessen framerate issues would be having the more common mycus beings of similar purpose glom together when there’s enough of them around, smaller spore clouds mesh into larger spore clouds that have a higher chance of succeeding at what they do, and the same deal with fungaloids, which would in themselves come together into larger fungaloid “evolutions” which would spew out larger, more potent spore clouds that would do the job of many beings with less, which would probably help out a lot.

KA101 · 2014-10-13T01:51:02.000Z

Zaylin:

A nice way to lessen framerate issues would be having the more common mycus beings of similar purpose glom together when there’s enough of them around, smaller spore clouds mesh into larger spore clouds that have a higher chance of succeeding at what they do, and the same deal with fungaloids, which would in themselves come together into larger fungaloid “evolutions” which would spew out larger, more potent spore clouds that would do the job of many beings with less, which would probably help out a lot.

I like it. We’ve similar code for blobs.

i2amroy · 2014-10-13T02:02:55.000Z

I’m not so sure about the normal fungaloids merging (I always personally pictured them as vast fields of whitecapped mushrooms), but I could definitely see spore clouds merging.

KA101 · 2014-10-13T02:12:56.000Z

i2amroy:

I’m not so sure about the normal fungaloids merging (I always personally pictured them as vast fields of whitecapped mushrooms), but I could definitely see spore clouds merging.

Yeah. Spore clouds, perhaps adjacent fungal blossoms. Folks who generate Trouble.

eatdembeanz · 2014-10-13T03:48:24.000Z

i2amroy:

I’m not so sure about the normal fungaloids merging (I always personally pictured them as vast fields of whitecapped mushrooms), but I could definitely see spore clouds merging.

I suppose you could name these merged Fungaloids as basic collective nouns? Like, three Fungaloids makes a Fungaloid Group, eight Fungaloids makes a Fungaloid Thicket, and so on?

TheFlame52 · 2014-10-13T15:56:02.000Z

Mycus Feeder really cleaned up my inventory. Instead of my water bottles, I am carrying a packed LAW. And instead of my liquor and bone broth flasks, I am carrying some extra bandages. And I don’t need to worry about my food going bad or having to refill by bottles, either.

Crashdandicoot · 2014-10-13T16:30:22.000Z

[quote=“KA101, post:68, topic:7534”]Ambassador would work through a combination of speech/barter, growing marloss fruit on xyr person and distributing it, and possibly more direct methods.

Gardener would be able to manually deploy fungal units such as tendrils, blossoms, etc, and have recipes to seed towers/giant blossoms/spires. Build properly to please the Mycus (and thereby yourself–I need to work up a morale mechanic for that) and eventually get portals open to bring more of it through. And develop larger blossom spires capable of seeding the region (localized weather: spore rain, once we get localized weather) and eventually insert into the upper atmosphere and jet-stream the haze worldwide.

I added a localized marlossify to the apples in latest because folks kept treating 'em like funberries. I’m thinking I’ll make mutating Mycus stuff a rare chance when sleeping or something along that line, and remove the mutation & marlossify effects altogether.[/quote]

Ah I see that sounds pretty cool actually , though normally I don’t care for NPC interactions in Cata this would definitely get my atten-

KA101:

Gardener would be able to manually deploy fungal units such as tendrils, blossoms, etc

KA101:

manually deploy fungal units

Oh yes indeed. This is all I ever wanted, being able to build new towers/spires/blooms etc is more than enough to handle the drawbacks. Just knowing that this is where you plan to take it is immensely reassuring, I can’t wait. Guess I should grab the latest update to get that new marlossify effect too. Also i like the idea of changing the mutation mechanic, it does get a bit screwy when mycus fruit is your only food source but it also gives you mutations constantly because of the sidegrades of bloom and sporogenesis.

Zaylin · 2014-10-13T21:15:42.000Z

Well, you only get mutations now from the fruit up until it becomes the only thing you can eat, then you get them from sleep/dreaming. Hmm, do mycus get comfort from sleeping on fungal clumps or other fungal “furniture”? Because at some point your furniture’s ending up fungused over, and with the new cold mechanics going on, that might be iffy. Although that’s what getting some blankets and stuff is for, probably.

Actually, now that I think about it, I wonder if the crafting stuff is going to use those fungal clumps that seem like they’d be openable for neat stuff but only really exist to be smashed to explode into spores. They’re probably just containers so they can contain the stuff that was on the furniture that ended up converted, though.

TheFlame52 · 2014-10-14T13:00:41.000Z

Hell yeah, got myself some Sporogenesis. Time to put out a shit-ton of spores! But I expected them to be friendly… What if friendly spores had the same chance to germinate as wild ones once the player gained Mycus? Or maybe Gardener?

KA101 · 2014-10-15T00:02:31.000Z

TheFlame52:

Hell yeah, got myself some Sporogenesis. Time to put out a shit-ton of spores! But I expected them to be friendly… What if friendly spores had the same chance to germinate as wild ones once the player gained Mycus? Or maybe Gardener?

They do, actually. Spores you spawn not being friendly is a minor oversight on my part. However, friendly spores have a habit of clumping around stuff that isn’t friendly, so I’m not thinking this is a high-priority fix.

One of the reasons I called it “Gardener” is that at that stage the Mycus trusts its guide enough (and has the guide dependent on apples anyway) to let the guide remove fungal critters/terrain if deemed necessary. Too much of a good thing may be a fire hazard and all that.