# Greatbow balance

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [November 13, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474 "2018-11-13T21:59:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tamior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tamior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tamior)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474/49 "2018-11-15T17:48:10Z")

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> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/221):
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> It’s real simple, limit starting stats to 14, since the design doc lists that as the absolute limit for a normal human. Either the design doc is wrong and needs to be rewritten, or strength is broken as a stat (it is), or starting with any stat as high as 18 is ridiculous (it is). Only one of those things is super easy to fix.

So submit a PR that would actually make 14 the limit for normal character and only then introduce weapons that operate under the presumption 14 is the limit…?

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