# Greatbow balance

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [November 13, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474 "2018-11-13T21:59:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tamior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tamior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tamior)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474/30 "2018-11-15T11:17:08Z")

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> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/205):
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> I was under the impression 35 was the total damage, not base, which brings the wooden greatbow to an actual damage of 49, assuming the player is using the top-craftable metal broadhead arrows. (Not sure how that converts to 80+ in practice, but it’s likely a damage bonus from a good-hit, a byproduct of only using it at a couple of tiles range.)

Sooo, you never actually tested this bow in the actual game with an actual character to see how it will actually work…?

> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/205):
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> Starting with superhuman strength (by the design doc, with 14 being “a realistic world class human”) with no traits, mutations, or real consequences is exceptionally weird.

That’s the way the game works. “Design docs” may or may not reflect the way the game actually works.

> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/205):
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> Having pitiful dexterity and perception having no drawbacks seems either exaggerated or unbalanced in and of itself.

It has drawbacks. The drawbacks are just not large enough to make that build somehow very obscure or non-viable for an median player.

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