# Greatbow balance

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [November 13, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474 "2018-11-13T21:59:03Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/greatbow-balance/17474/18 "2018-11-14T11:48:17Z")

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> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/193):
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> If you introduce bows that will scale with strength the way you currently suggest you will have to either re-balance all enemy HP and armor values, or high-end bows with moderate skill will one-shot just about everything (instantly sending the game meta-balance down the drain).

Maybe, but probably not. The greatbow will remain the top-end for bow damage and is pretty reasonable by most accounts.

> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/193):
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> As for “starting with 18 strength and bullrushing the greatbow” — it’s a completely normal play under current meta available to any profession and starting scenario.

Nope, normal play is starting with 8 in all stats. Starting with 18 strength is quite rare, and you’re specifically doing that to get to the greatbow, so it’s not normal play.

> [@Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/193):
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> More so if you plan to introduce more bows with lower strength requirements and similar damage scaling.

The damage scaling is constant and already exists, just there will be more in the middle range.

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