Generic Guns mod usage poll

[Jarlaxlejr]

I’m a gun guy IRL (‘Merica!) so I recognize pretty much all the different guns, though to be honest Artyoms’ gun emporium has led to a few interesting google searches.

[evilexecutive]

I’m going to go out on a limb and say what is pretty much already on most people’s minds. Cataclysm’s gun variety contributes quite heavily to it’s charm. I still quite fondly remember all of the survivors I had where their main weapon was the Remington 700, which was chosen because it’s the rifle I used to shoot my first deer in real life. This same charm wouldn’t exist if it was simply listed as: “Hunting Rifle”. Generifying the guns would also get rid of the Mosin Nagant(Renaming it to “Hunting Rifle”), which if I’m not mistaken, there is a cult on this forum that actively worships it.

I do however feel like the melee weapons in this game need more variety rather than just stuff like, “Scimitar, Katana, Arming Sword, Combat Knife”. There should be as much melee weapon variety as there is gun variety. I should be able to walk into a pawn shop and pick up a Ka-bar, a Fairbairne Sykes, or some other sword by any modern swordsmiths.

[Solusphere]

I do however feel like the melee weapons in this game need more variety rather than just stuff like, “Scimitar, Katana, Arming Sword, Combat Knife”. There should be as much melee weapon variety as there is gun variety. I should be able to walk into a pawn shop and pick up a Ka-bar, a Fairbairne Sykes, or some other sword by any modern swordsmiths.

In some circumstances, yes, but I’d say only when they’re fairly recognizable and distinctive. In principle, any melee weapons that have existed prior to the american civil war are fundamentally similar in design, differing only in manufacture. Calling a bowie knife a bowie knife is fine by me, but specifying the exact manufacturer of a katana serves no useful purpose IMO.

[evilexecutive]

[quote=“evilexecutive, post:13, topic:12046”]I do however feel like the melee weapons in this game need more variety rather than just stuff like, “Scimitar, Katana, Arming Sword, Combat Knife”. There should be as much melee weapon variety as there is gun variety. I should be able to walk into a pawn shop and pick up a Ka-bar, a Fairbairne Sykes, or some other sword by any modern swordsmiths.

In some circumstances, yes, but I’d say only when they’re fairly recognizable and distinctive. In principle, any melee weapons that have existed prior to the american civil war are fundamentally similar in design, differing only in manufacture. Calling a bowie knife a bowie knife is fine by me, but specifying the exact manufacturer of a katana serves no useful purpose IMO.[/quote]

Yes, this is probably true, and I do agree with you to an extent. I would however like to see the Ka-bar and Fairbairne Sykes put into the game, seeing as how they’re both very unique knives in the same vein as the Bowie Knife.

[Braethias]

there are COUNTLESS variants on melee weapons though. Most of them from medieval times sure, most modern day weapons are the same as they were back then, granted. In this though? Yeah not much to do there unless there start being weapon specific mods (like the flaming swords, akin dead island style)

[pisskop]

melee weapons have a lot of flavor.

go on and name each type of glaive used in combat in the old world. you cant because every singke permutation is its own weapons and often they werent even distinguished by their own crafters.

im okay not seeing

“makeshift glaive with a swarthy blade”
“makeshift glaive with too much duct tape”
"++makeshift glaive++"

[Valpo]

I have no use for this mod.

[Fourty_two]

I actually use this mod quite often, it makes searching for the right ammo a whole lot easier.

[Voqar]

None of the above?

I’ve used it a couple times and could live without it.

On one hand I think the wide variety of guns is kind of excessive given the general level of abstraction in the game, but on the other hand it gives flavor and an illusion of choice. (and muddies up loot so it’s usually more of a pain to find ammo for your favorite or current weapon)

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

I tried it when I got a new experimental, but I didn’t like it. It should be limited to generic ammunition instead of guns + ammo.

Could you expand the poll by asking if the respondents if they would use it in an altered form?

[Submarine]

I wish there was a “Generic” mod for all Items.

[bananaedmonkey]

I wish there was a “Generic” mod for all Items.

The ultra generic mod:

you pick up "melee weapon"
you fire "gun"
you throw “explosive”

All the skills in the game:
combat
not-combat
(max level is 1)

1 book that trains all skills, referred to as “book”

1 type of car, called “car”

all controls are in the form of yes-no questions.

[Coolthulhu]

1 type of car, called “car”

You may be joking, but there were actual suggestions to add car models.
Basically tiny variants differing only in name and some incredibly minor details, like door placement or wheel size.

If car models were a thing, a “generic cars” mod would be a great idea.

[deoxy]

[quote=“bananaedmonkey, post:23, topic:12046”]1 type of car, called “car”

You may be joking, but there were actual suggestions to add car models.
Basically tiny variants differing only in name and some incredibly minor details, like door placement or wheel size.

If car models were a thing, a “generic cars” mod would be a great idea.[/quote]

Actually, I’d love to have many models of car… but there would not NEED to be a “generic cars mod”, because you can already make a zillion kinds of “car” and all of their parts already work together just fine.

[BeerBeer]

Could’ve used an option “Never tried it, never appealed to me.” Could it be made less painful to maintain?

To me “Generic Guns” should mean like 1 handpicked handgun, 1 rifle, 1 assault rifle, 1 shotgun, 1 SMG etc., totaling up to 10 handpicked guns or so, meaning maybe it doesn’t have to be that painful to maintain. Maybe it could be rebranded to “Less Gun Variety” or “Choice Guns” or similar.

But I digress.

[mco]

[quote=“pisskop, post:17, topic:12046”]im okay not seeing

“makeshift glaive with a swarthy blade”
“makeshift glaive with too much duct tape”
"++makeshift glaive++"[/quote]
On the contrary, i would like this feature. Not as a different crafting recipes, but rather as unexpected results, possibly modified by skills. Suppose, your bashing is higher than cutting, then you have a chance to craft the ‘heavy glaive’. Nothing too extreme, to avoid “well gg i wasted 8 hours crafting the wrong type”. Like, ‘heavy’ suffix on glaive increasing bashing by 3, weight by 100 and reducing cutting by -1. ‘too much duct tape’ takes 1.5 amount of duct tape to craft but the weapon is a bit studier. Stuff like that. It will make smithing more interesting and weapons more personalized.

[Submarine]

Why we don’t add 50 more different flavors of soups? Get a new recipe book titled " The Soup Nazi" so we do also add 50 more hits in the crafting menu.

[X-PLODE]

The game is bloated, a lot of recipes are superfluous.

[deoxy]

Why we don’t add 50 more different flavors of soups? Get a new recipe book titled " The Soup Nazi" so we do also add 50 more hits in the crafting menu.

Oh, I don’t disagree with you on the recipe bloat thing, my point was that, because of the way the vehicle system works, there can already easily be a practically infinite number of different vehicles and it wouldn’t bloat your recipe log in ANY way, or even really matter all that much, other than atmosphere.

[The_Cat_Wizard]

[quote=“Submarine, post:22, topic:12046”]I wish there was a “Generic” mod for all Items.

The ultra generic mod:

you pick up "melee weapon"
you fire "gun"
you throw “explosive”

All the skills in the game:
combat
not-combat
(max level is 1)

1 book that trains all skills, referred to as “book”

1 type of car, called “car”

all controls are in the form of yes-no questions.[/quote]
You jest, but I would totally play that.