# Game keeps crashing

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [September 18, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548 "2016-09-18T01:35:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/1 "2016-09-18T01:35:03Z")

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Hey,

My game keeps crashing after about 10 mins of playing. I’m using build 5507 but it has been doing it for the last 30 builds or so. I’ve reinstalled the game but still getting the same issue.

When it crashes I get the following:

Problem signature:  
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH  
Application Name: cataclysm-tiles.exe  
Application Version: 0.0.0.0  
Application Timestamp: ac20ac18  
Fault Module Name: ltc\_game64-116096.dll  
Fault Module Version: 1.0.0.1  
Fault Module Timestamp: 57cf505f  
Exception Code: c00000fd  
Exception Offset: 000000000000320b  
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3  
Locale ID: 1033  
Additional Information 1: f2e9  
Additional Information 2: f2e9dcee77aa816ddc709a9dcb0b7256  
Additional Information 3: d798  
Additional Information 4: d7981297249e49b1c9454ac70bf215be

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/2 "2016-09-18T02:11:56Z")

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Could be the weather bug - it could cause a crash.

Try this: bind debug menu in options-\>commands (’?’ and then ‘1’), press the keybind when in game, find the change weather option (‘h’ I think) and first force clear weather, then go back to this menu and disable weather forcing. If it works, it means it’s the weather bug and it will be fixed soon.

If not, try to find out if there is a good way to reproduce the crash. If you have autosave on, lower the time between autosaves.

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 8:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/3 "2016-09-18T08:57:02Z")

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Thanks for that I’ll give it a go

I have a feeling it might not be the case as I’ve had the game crash whilst in world/character creation when I’ve taken my time doing it it

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**Author:** ![Firestorm\_01](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/firestorm_01/32/1977_2.png) [@Firestorm\_01](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Firestorm_01)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 10:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/4 "2016-09-18T10:31:45Z")

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Actually weather bug likely fixed already and merged:

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/18365>

Try to grab build past 5507. Problem is that builds past 5507 (5508-5519) was failed to build on Jenkins for any platform. So we just need to wait.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/5 "2016-09-19T07:56:47Z")

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Build 5524 was available roughly 10 hours ago, you can get 5542 right now… so go update!

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 11:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/6 "2016-09-19T11:20:23Z")

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I updated the launcher and to build 5538 and it’s still crashing after approx 10 mins.

If I delete the game folder are there any other folders I need to delete to have a clean slate and try and reinstall again?

When I first installed I was having no issues.

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/7 "2016-09-20T01:54:18Z")

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If i provide the crash dump file would someone be able to make sense of it?

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/8 "2016-09-20T01:58:42Z")

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You mean you’re starting a new game or is it a save that crashes?

If it’s a save, uploading the save could help.

The game is fully contained in the game folder, just unpacking the game zip in a different location is like “reinstalling”.

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/9 "2016-09-20T03:12:50Z")

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I’ve started new games, reinstalled in new folders, created new worlds.

I’m out of ideas as what’s causing the game to crash.

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/10 "2016-09-20T03:20:35Z")

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most recent builds vehicles are bugged. Trying to build a new vehichle with wooden frame steals your components, debugging in a small cart and attempting to move it makes game crash. Could it be something to do with this?

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**Author:** ![pets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58956e/32.png) [@pets](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pets)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/11 "2016-09-21T00:10:42Z")

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0.C g50ed458  
SDL  
Windows 7 x64

I also have these crashing problems with experimental windows graphical builds from weeks ago up to the current latest build 5565 (tried both 32bit and 64bit builds).  
To replicate these crashes on these recent windows graphical builds with default settings, start a new game and leave the game running for roughly ten minutes- no input is necessary.

As a workaround, I have many crash-free hours into recent windows graphical builds once I enabled software rendering.  
To enable software rendering:  
At the main title screen, go to Options \> Graphics, scroll down to Software rendering and set from False to True.  
Re-launch the game once set and these crashes should no longer occur. (Game must be re-launched for this setting to take effect.)  
With software rendering enabled I have visual artifacts- small black lines on some outdoor ground tiles, but at least the crashes are gone.

Alternatively, one can give up pretty graphics and run the latest experimental console builds; I have had none of these crashes running them.

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**Author:** ![Beanzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/beanzy/32/488_2.png) [@Beanzy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Beanzy)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/12 "2016-09-21T04:25:38Z")

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> [@pets](#):
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> As a workaround, I have many crash-free hours into recent windows graphical builds once I enabled software rendering.

It sounds like a graphics driver incompatibility. I’ve played for hours straight with hardware rendering.

Are you using the newest graphics drivers for your PC?

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/13 "2016-09-21T06:21:10Z")

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Thanks for your idea pets. I’ll make sure my drivers are uptodate. If it still crashes then I’ll try software fix.

I’ll let you know how I go

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/14 "2016-09-25T06:07:18Z")

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So it’s definitely a graphics thing. Updated drivers and crashing still occurring.

Seems fine in software rendering but the performance seems to drop and I wasn’t a fan.

Played in ASCII mode and no issues. (Edit: I’ve got a feeling I had it in console mode)

Any suggestions on what could be causing the graphics issue?

EDIT: It just crashed in ASCII mode. I give up… ☹

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**Author:** ![ixie-nay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ixie-nay/32/559_2.png) [@ixie-nay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ixie-nay)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/15 "2016-09-29T21:01:55Z")

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I’ve been having the same problem–didn’t realize it started right after I updated my graphics card drivers until I read this thread. Using software rendering fixed it, but it’s mildly irritating.

I’m using an AMD Radeon HD 8210, driver version 13.251.9001.1001. Are you using the same graphics card, or is this a problem with multiple drivers?

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**Author:** ![noodles590](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e495f1/32.png) [@noodles590](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/noodles590)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/16 "2016-09-30T01:52:19Z")

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I’ve got a Radeon 7800 so could be an issue with the AMD cards?

But surely heaps of people here are using radeons without any issues.

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**Author:** ![Beanzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/beanzy/32/488_2.png) [@Beanzy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Beanzy)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/17 "2016-09-30T07:10:30Z")

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I’m using a R9 380 without any problems (Driver ver. 16.9.1), so maybe it’s only an issue with older AMD models?

I have a laptop with an old radeon, I’ll see if I can reproduce the issue.

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**Author:** ![Midaychi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Midaychi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Midaychi)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-keeps-crashing/12548/18 "2016-09-30T09:51:04Z")

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I’ve been getting crashes on windows 10 x64 with the experimental version, but it only happens when entering advanced inventory and only when standing in the middle of a big pile of stuff.  
A very hard bug to pin down. I’ve been trying to get a save where this happens but it seems to happen out of the blue.

The only time I got a save where it happens, it doesn’t happen reliably. Sometimes you load the save and it crashes when you enter AI, other times it doesn’t.