# For jump-starting blacksmithing: stone anvils
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [November 3, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791 "2015-11-03T16:32:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/21 "2015-11-04T17:17:03Z")
> [@Logrin](#):
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> Why not just have the rare ‘boulder’ as terrain out in the wild? Players to sculpt it down to a flat surface with sweat and a chisel…or wreck their vehicles ramming into it!
Though about boulders. I heard New England has a lot of those. They could also be useful for harvesting lots of rocks.
We don’t have chisels though. Or do we?
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### Author:  [@vache](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vache)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/22 "2015-11-04T17:33:52Z")
We have metalworking chisels. That’s all though.
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### Author:  [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/23 "2015-11-04T23:58:36Z")
I would so go for having another way to get rocks other than just sporadically picking them up off the ground.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/24 "2015-11-05T00:00:56Z")
Tempting, possibly. For now, the anvil tweak at least has been merged. For other ideas though, kinda been burnt out lately, especially after the last massive PR dump.
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### Author:  [@Logrin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Logrin)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/25 "2015-11-05T00:08:52Z")
Well, before they had metal the earliest stonemasons used a combination of wooden tools and persistence in their craft. I don’t know how practical this would be however–as I’m ignorant of whether the larger stones of New England are primarily igneous or metamorphic.
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### Author:  [@Malaxxor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malaxxor)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/26 "2015-11-05T15:40:38Z")
> [@Theundyingcode](#):
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> I would so go for having another way to get rocks other than just sporadically picking them up off the ground.
Mine shaft + Jackhammer = enough stone to build a live-sized version of motherfucking Camelot.
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### Author:  [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/27 "2015-11-05T19:32:01Z")
Logrin is correct. TL;DR:
Early stonemasonry was essentially carving notches or seams in the working stone, inserting wooden wedges into these notches, then pounding these wedges with mallets or hammers to split the rock across a seam.
There were other things to it, such as finding the weak lines in the rock and the finishing touches and interesting stuff like cranes powered by human hamster-wheels, but that’s about it.
IIRC they had to have lots of spare tools, a forge and blacksmiths constantly on hand to repair the metal tools throughout the day as iron tools, chisels etc tended to wear out very quickly.
Remember that when you see something like a castle or pre-revolution fort.
So, boulder + Hammer/Sledge/Jackhammer = stones, flat boulder?
If we get this in I hope you can make them grab/draggable.
Just so we can use slave teams NPCs to make great pyramids to house our fallen survivors, containing all their loot, vehicles, tamed animals and wives/servants.
I mean come on, considering the goo and revivication would you really want these psychopaths coming back to life?
They’d be worse than biohulks, or the terminator. Or tank drones. Burying them under a few thousand tonnes of rock sounds like a good idea.
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### Author:  [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/28 "2015-11-06T03:23:27Z")
Yea. Doing so would give hope to those that want to run away, that they could manage doing so before survivor revived and broke out of 20 tons of solid rock. Plus I like imagining the faces of those that realize that said zombie survivor did just that, and is now looking at them as an ontré.
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### Author:  [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2015, 7:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/29 "2015-11-06T07:32:35Z")
I love LOVE Iosyn’s ideas!
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### Author:  [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/30 "2015-11-06T07:33:07Z")
Two questions: can zombies use cbms and would they suffer teleportation sickness because that would be truly scary.
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### Author:  [@jokermatt999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jokermatt999)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/31 "2015-11-07T19:34:29Z")
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Boulders. If those go through, I may do a separate anvil PR.
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### Author:  [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-jump-starting-blacksmithing-stone-anvils/10791/32 "2015-11-15T18:55:24Z")
> [@Zireael](#):
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> I love LOVE Iosyn’s ideas!
I love this community ^.^. So many amazing people jammed into such a small group, and nay an obnoxious asshole in sight…unless… is it me? Am I the asshole? WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME!!!
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