# Firearm Optics Comparison?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firearm-optics-comparison/24756>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [September 18, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firearm-optics-comparison/24756 "2020-09-18T01:46:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![bouchacha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@bouchacha](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bouchacha)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firearm-optics-comparison/24756/1 "2020-09-18T01:46:36Z")

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Are the differences between red dot \> holographic \> ACOG \> rifle scope just a straight upgrade? It seems like with a rifle scope you get a sight dispersion of 0 but you miss out on the slight aiming speed bonus of 6/6/2 respectively which seems trivial in comparison. This does not seem intuitive. I understand how a rifle scope would zero out sight dispersion, but red dot sights make target acquisition significantly faster. Is there some hidden stat I am not aware of? Because the optimal play seems to put rifle scopes on everything. Additionally, what is the point of offset iron sights? Under what circumstances would they be used?

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firearm-optics-comparison/24756/2 "2020-09-18T16:22:50Z")

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Weight and volume are also considerations, as they will slow down your aim as well. Rifle scopes are very accurate at long distances, but a hindrance when something’s up close rushing at you.

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**Author:** ![bouchacha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@bouchacha](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bouchacha)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firearm-optics-comparison/24756/3 "2020-09-18T21:00:44Z")

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Is this reflected in the item stats? I did not see anything change re: aiming speed between for example a regular stock and a folding stock.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firearm-optics-comparison/24756/4 "2020-09-19T18:48:45Z")

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It varies depending on the gun mod. The system’s a little weird and unintuitive, IMO. In that particular case, you’re probably seeing one of the other limiting factors for aim speed besides weight.