# Fatal error still occuring
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [November 12, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938 "2013-11-12T13:18:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@timtek](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/timtek)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938/1 "2013-11-12T13:18:21Z")
.9.RC1-119-ga1de372
SDL
Win XP
Still unable to load old save files from previous experimental builds. I’m getting the same crash as last time. The last version my save file worked on was 0.9.RC1-76-g77e5f36. Hope this helps.
Debug Message
gamesave.cpp[625]: error loading master.gsav: line 2:4557: expecting string but got ‘,’
“follow\_up”:0},{“type\_id”:16,“description”:"",“failed”:false,“value”:600,“reward”:{“type”:0,“value”:0,“itype\_id”:“null”},“uid”:20,“target”:[-1,-1],“count”:0,“deadline”:0,“npc\_id”:20,“good\_fac\_id”:-1,“bad\_fac\_id”:-1,“step”:0,“follow\_up”:17}],"
^
factions":[{“id”:0,“name”:“The army”,“values”:0,“goal”:3,“job1”:6,“job2”:0,“likes\_u”:0,“respects\_u”:0,“known\_by\_u”:false,“strength”:0,“sneak”:0,“crime”:0,“cult”:0,“good”:0,“omx”:0,“omy”:0,“mapx”:90,“mapy”:90,“size”:360,“power”:180,"opinion\_
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### Author:  [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938/2 "2013-11-12T20:11:57Z")
…Out of curiosity is this a ported save from 0.8? I think they recently did something to the factions so that you don’t’ automatically start with top level relations (and knowing all of them) off the bat and I think this might have broken save compatibility.
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### Author:  [@timtek](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/timtek)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938/3 "2013-11-13T00:45:02Z")
I believe so. This one has been carried over a few times, it may have been the tail end of .8 just before the .9rc’s. But it works on one of the rc’s, just not the newer ones.
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### Author:  [@TaintedHolyWater](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TaintedHolyWater)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938/4 "2013-11-14T01:13:17Z")
I’m actually getting the same problem from loading any save. I can make a new character on a new world, save/quit and load it back up… and red text comes up.