Experimental SDL version uploaded for Windows

Squirrel · 2013-06-20T13:59:15.000Z

Hmm, getting a bug with this version. My character currently has ~20 volume he can carry total, most of which is currently filled up. So my problem is, if I have picked up something in my hands that can’t fit in my inventory, I can’t drop it onto another tile. As in, for example -

I have a jerrycan with gasoline that I want to drop of in my truck’s trunk , I press “D”, select where I want to drop it, but it prompts saying that “No space in inventory for your jerrycan of gasoline, do you want to drop it? Y/N’”. So I press Y, and it drops it below me, not to the designated space. Alright, no biggie, I step on the trunk, repeat, but it gets dropped below it, as in, not in the trunk. So my vehicle moves forward, yet the jerrycan stays behind.

This only happens with items that I can’t fit into my inventory. It seems it’s going the route of - Take off hands > put in inventory > Drop.

Either I’ve missed something, or this is a bug. Assuming anyone can even decipher what I just said.

Other than that - Great release, works really, really smoothly.

100Rads · 2013-06-20T14:31:01.000Z

Your trunk is probably full and you cant put anymore things in it.

kevin.granade · 2013-06-20T15:19:10.000Z

[quote=“Squirrel, post:128, topic:1713”]Hmm, getting a bug with this version. My character currently has ~20 volume he can carry total, most of which is currently filled up. So my problem is, if I have picked up something in my hands that can’t fit in my inventory, I can’t drop it onto another tile. As in, for example -

I have a jerrycan with gasoline that I want to drop of in my truck’s trunk , I press “D”, select where I want to drop it, but it prompts saying that “No space in inventory for your jerrycan of gasoline, do you want to drop it? Y/N’”. So I press Y, and it drops it below me, not to the designated space. Alright, no biggie, I step on the trunk, repeat, but it gets dropped below it, as in, not in the trunk. So my vehicle moves forward, yet the jerrycan stays behind.

This only happens with items that I can’t fit into my inventory. It seems it’s going the route of - Take off hands > put in inventory > Drop.

Either I’ve missed something, or this is a bug. Assuming anyone can even decipher what I just said.[/quote]

Thanks for reporting it. It’s a bug, it’s addressed
Though I think it’s not merged yet.

vultures · 2013-06-21T01:13:11.000Z

Yes, forgot to mention that the adventure of playing the official SDL build for windows on an old computer turned out really well. I had 50+ opponents, car/chassis collisions and with infrastructures, multiple times - it all went about 150% faster than before and there were no redraws/slowdowns.
I’m testing SDL 2.0 myself on my own terms and I can tell you, it’s even faster - that is, if you don’t use OpenGL for 2D.

assviberator · 2013-06-21T07:30:02.000Z

how does the fast learner trait interacts with the new foucs system

am not sure how does the foucs system works in the first place but am assuming it is percantage of the total skill gained from an action example(when foucs is 50% and u get 10 u actually get 5 and this 5 is deducted from your total foucs) please corrcet me if am wrong.

Narc · 2013-06-22T05:57:25.000Z

[quote=“assviberator, post:132, topic:1713”]how does the fast learner trait interacts with the new foucs system[/quote]Fast Learner gives you an extra 20% effective focus when learning by doing – i.e. any learning outside of reading books.

Pthalocy · 2013-06-25T05:12:51.000Z

So, what you're saying is the DEBUG menu causes a game-crashing BUG. Oh, the irony...

Yep, did it again. Running the Windows SDL version this time. Windows 7, 64-bit.

Debug list causes a fatal exception right when I scroll down to purifier (was hovering over Purse when it quit).

Heh. Amusing.

Quoting self from another thread, put my report in the wrong section. Happened with the version of the build I downloaded just this evening.

youtoo · 2013-06-28T15:47:33.000Z

played old and new version on windows. i never noticed speed issues on windows on the old version. did other people? I have an i5 quad core chip and tons of ram. im not sure how much power tihs game uses. it didnt seem like alot.

Zireael · 2013-07-01T16:37:30.000Z

Is the experimental newer than 0.6?

darth_servo · 2013-07-01T20:11:12.000Z

Zireael:

Is the experimental newer than 0.6?

Yes, it has the absolute latest code changes.

Zireael · 2013-07-02T07:22:40.000Z

The link in OP says “0.5”, that’s why I’m wondering.

i2amroy · 2013-07-03T02:55:54.000Z

Yeah that’s a mistake. I’ve sent a message out to GlyphGryph, who will hopefully get around to fixing it sometime soon. For now the easiest way is simply to download from the main page.

Dzlan · 2013-07-04T06:42:28.000Z

I just downloaded the SDL again… (Time for an update) and yet… Why is the font so weird now.
I understand things changed when the SDL came out… but now… I go from 0.6-116 (or something) to nows and the font is really screwed up…

nickk · 2013-07-11T16:33:36.000Z

Performance in the latest windows SDL experimental build (downloaded last night) seems to be a lot worse than the version from 30/06. Just creating a new character and running around I move a lot slower. Given how much travelling is involved in the game, that’s annoying enough for me to choose the older version.

Specifically, the 30/06 one reads version 0.6.187-g1fcae4b
The latest one is 0.6-450-g44eaf8e

Zireael · 2013-07-11T16:37:27.000Z

The only performance problem I have (with all builds I tried, including the 0.6) is a slight hang-up the moment my sleepy time goes past 6 AM.

nickk · 2013-07-11T16:58:34.000Z

That’s nice for you.
I just timed running 10 map squares by holding down the direction key through fields with a new world and char on the new version - can’t give an exact time because it took a second or so to switch to another window to start & stop the timer, but it finished at 17.8 seconds so I guess around 1.6 secs/square after taking that off.
Same test in the old version - I’d kept my old folder. The map meant I could only run 9 squares, but it came in at just over 9 seconds and that’s including the start/stop times. So, around 1 sec/square.
Both characters were identical (I just took the default without spending any points).
The difference is very visible to the eye. After playing the old version it feels like running through treacle. I’ve now tried 3 times with reset worlds so I think it’s something with the version rather than a problem particular to one generated world.

darth_servo · 2013-07-11T20:18:02.000Z

[quote=“nickk, post:141, topic:1713”]Performance in the latest windows SDL experimental build (downloaded last night) seems to be a lot worse than the version from 30/06. Just creating a new character and running around I move a lot slower. Given how much travelling is involved in the game, that’s annoying enough for me to choose the older version.

Specifically, the 30/06 one reads version 0.6.187-g1fcae4b
The latest one is 0.6-450-g44eaf8e[/quote]

There does seem to be a distinct difference in speed, from earlier SDL builds, but I don’t personally see too much of a slowdown.

I wonder, does the 30/06 build include the autopickup feature?

nickk · 2013-07-11T23:41:28.000Z

It doesn’t seem to have autopickup - at least it doesn’t appear in the options menu.
I didn’t change the default setting for autopickup on the newer version though and the options menu has “Enable item auto pickup” as false. That said, I have no idea how much code still runs for autopickup when it’s disabled.

youtoo · 2013-07-12T17:57:38.000Z

have people had performance issues on windows before SDL? I never did. just curious. My understanding is that SDL is supposed to make the game run faster.

vultures · 2013-07-17T12:14:58.000Z

There were some words on it past the 0.5 builds; it’s that the linux game with ncurses had a significant edge over the native windows renderer, so a faster one was introduced.