# ESAPI armor is still hilariously broken

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/esapi-armor-is-still-hilariously-broken/23258
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [April 15, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/esapi-armor-is-still-hilariously-broken/23258 "2020-04-15T12:06:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author: ![Nonesuch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nonesuch/32/8516_2.png) [@Nonesuch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nonesuch)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/esapi-armor-is-still-hilariously-broken/23258/21 "2020-04-20T15:14:46Z")

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Thank you for saying this. This argument keeps coming up, and it’s super frustrating. Part of the community/game that I’m not very fond of.

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### Author: ![Clek](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/clek/32/1410_2.png) [@Clek](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Clek)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/esapi-armor-is-still-hilariously-broken/23258/22 "2020-04-20T15:36:04Z")

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I think you should work on your attitude a little. It’s a completely free game and everyone developing does so voluntarily. Also it’s a niche sandboxy single player game , NOT a competetive online game with millions of players. On top of that, modding a few item’s numbers is very easy so if it really bothers you THAT much that one armor is better than the other you could easily fix it for your game.

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### Author: ![Dany\_Raven](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dany_raven/32/8544_2.png) [@Dany\_Raven](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dany_Raven)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/esapi-armor-is-still-hilariously-broken/23258/23 "2020-04-20T16:15:41Z")

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> [@Clek](#):
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> Also it’s a niche sandboxy **single player game** , NOT a **competetive online game** with millions of players.

this

basically I don’t see why one should complain

zeds and bandits should conplain, not the player

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