# Draw Your Cataclysms

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [March 11, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441 "2013-03-11T20:18:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2701 "2014-12-17T17:26:10Z")

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I like what i see there! Nice drawig, man

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**Author:** ![Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kyriolexical_dino/32/276_2.png) [@Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kyriolexical_Dino)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2702 "2014-12-17T17:27:09Z")

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I have to admit, you draw cars better than I do.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2703 "2014-12-17T17:46:40Z")

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Cars are so hard ;-;

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**Author:** ![Steelmaniac](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/steelmaniac/32/394_2.png) [@Steelmaniac](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Steelmaniac)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2704 "2014-12-17T18:22:36Z")

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> [@StopSignal](#):
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> Cars are so hard ;-;

> [@Kyriolexical Dino](#):
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> I have to admit, you draw cars better than I do.

I’d be lying if I said I found cars hard to draw.  
The hardest part is getting the perspective right, but for everything else, considering I’ve been drawing cars since I was a baby…

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**Author:** ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2705 "2014-12-17T18:27:58Z")

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I can draw cars to be identifiable as generic cars. I cannot draw specific models without very good references and a lot of time. I’ve got a grasp of what makes human beings unique from one another and can tell them apart on sight, my brain’s built for that. I don’t have a similar lexicon for cars, or guns either.

So both groups of inanimate objects, that are influenced blatantly by perspective with their mathematically precise lines and curves, elude me in ways that soft limbs and hand gestures don’t. Fuck perspective. I have the hardest time fitting people into 3D environments. It’s like making two opposites play nice.

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**Author:** ![Steelmaniac](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/steelmaniac/32/394_2.png) [@Steelmaniac](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Steelmaniac)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2706 "2014-12-17T19:48:29Z")

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[quote=“Pthalocy, post:2705, topic:441”]I can draw cars to be identifiable as generic cars. I cannot draw specific models without very good references and a lot of time. I’ve got a grasp of what makes human beings unique from one another and can tell them apart on sight, my brain’s built for that. I don’t have a similar lexicon for cars, or guns either.

So both groups of inanimate objects, that are influenced blatantly by perspective with their mathematically precise lines and curves, elude me in ways that soft limbs and hand gestures don’t. Fuck perspective. I have the hardest time fitting people into 3D environments. It’s like making two opposites play nice.[/quote]

is that why you cant into backgrounds either?

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**Author:** ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2707 "2014-12-17T21:39:56Z")

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I find populating backgrounds to look believably cluttered to be really tedious. Getting perspective in it that is both interesting AND also fits people in it, double tedious. The fact I can take an hour+ just drawing clean toons, plus a lot of time to get the handwriting neat (learning disorder), then double it to add backgrounds. I can make my points without a reality around my characters.

The few times I do, more care tends to be given in fleshing out the background than framing it so the picture isn’t boring. I need to spend more time planning the picture just to be happy with it later. One of these days I’ll do a fully-fleshed picture as some kind of challenge/timesink when nothing else is going on in my life and it will look fucking gorgeous. I will be sick of making it by the time it is done, but that’s what it seems to take to be worth it.

So tl;dr, yes. But also I find the effort overwhelming. I need to take classes on how to do this more efficiently, or learn to make use of abstract backgrounds better.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2708 "2014-12-17T22:07:18Z")

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[quote=“Steelmaniac, post:2706, topic:441”][quote=“Pthalocy, post:2705, topic:441”]I can draw cars to be identifiable as generic cars. I cannot draw specific models without very good references and a lot of time. I’ve got a grasp of what makes human beings unique from one another and can tell them apart on sight, my brain’s built for that. I don’t have a similar lexicon for cars, or guns either.

So both groups of inanimate objects, that are influenced blatantly by perspective with their mathematically precise lines and curves, elude me in ways that soft limbs and hand gestures don’t. Fuck perspective. I have the hardest time fitting people into 3D environments. It’s like making two opposites play nice.[/quote]

is that why you cant into backgrounds either?[/quote]

Idk why but i saw that as kinda rude.

Anyways, perspective, no matter if we are talking about backgrounds or cars, it’s time consuming. Add to that the fact that most of the time if you want to get it good you need references and stuff, maybe even a ruler. So no, not even wanting to do that.

Let’s put some mountains or trees in the bg and we are set (?

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2709 "2014-12-17T22:08:31Z")

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> [@StopSignal](#):
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> Let’s put some mountains or trees in the bg and we are set (?

Happy mountains or trees.

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**Author:** ![Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kyriolexical_dino/32/276_2.png) [@Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kyriolexical_Dino)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2710 "2014-12-17T23:09:40Z")

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You know with all of this background talk, this is actually why real working artists of comics and manga hire assistants to do the background stuff and non critical pieces of the drawing. So don’t go beating yourself over it much, I too find it tedious and I actually think it’s one of the hardest processes in a drawing.

Which leads to the point, my drawings look really bland without anything happening in the background, it makes the world lifeless and gives in even more focus to my subpar skills shown in the main parts of the image.

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**Author:** ![Pthalocy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pthalocy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pthalocy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2711 "2014-12-18T08:34:48Z")

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[http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=4296.msg202381#msg202381](http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=4296.msg202381#msg202381)

It’s not a cata-related pic unless something from the nether is both that big and that weird. Actually, that might be really likely. I tend to spend as little time as possible looking at nether creatures in cata.

Either way, that’s me doing backgrounds, albeit a decade out of date skill-wise.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2712 "2014-12-18T20:14:24Z")

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I’d like to see one of your backgrounds from now, but i know it’s a lot of work, heh.

Anyways:

[center] ![](http://i.imgur.com/M0VwJDA.gif)[/center]

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2713 "2014-12-18T20:27:04Z")

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> [@StopSignal](#):
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> [center] ![](http://i.imgur.com/M0VwJDA.gif)[/center]

That is too cute!

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**Author:** ![wilson7755](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c89c15/32.png) [@wilson7755](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/wilson7755)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2714 "2014-12-18T20:28:56Z")

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[quote=“StopSignal, post:2712, topic:441”]I’d like to see one of your backgrounds from now, but i know it’s a lot of work, heh.

Anyways:

[center] ![](http://i.imgur.com/M0VwJDA.gif)[/center][/quote]  
Aw… Now I feel like crap

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2715 "2014-12-18T20:32:01Z")

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> [@wilson7755](#):
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> Aw… Now I feel like crap

Why D:

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**Author:** ![Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kyriolexical_dino/32/276_2.png) [@Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kyriolexical_Dino)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2716 "2014-12-18T21:00:23Z")

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Because you’re amazing at creating pixel art gifs.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2717 "2014-12-18T21:04:04Z")

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Awesome animation stopsignal

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2718 "2014-12-18T21:05:06Z")

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Awhh, thanks people! A lot.

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**Author:** ![FoobyDude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/foobydude/32/1373_2.png) [@FoobyDude](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FoobyDude)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2719 "2014-12-19T01:02:56Z")

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Unfortunately, I’ve not been working on anything recently. I’ve been felled to the trap of Good TV shows (in my opinion) and laziness, But hey, I’ve made at least 20 pictures since i’ve been back and a little break would be nice. I will probably come back later when i’m depressed the series i’m watching is over. (btw its “Kung Fu Panda: LoA”) (also, i typed this out using the ease of access keyboard, cause i didn’t want to restart the darn thing, quite the feat) love u bai \<3

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**Author:** ![wilson7755](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c89c15/32.png) [@wilson7755](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/wilson7755)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/draw-your-cataclysms/441/2720 "2014-12-19T01:09:36Z")

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> [@StopSignal](#):
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> [quote=“wilson7755, post:2714, topic:441”]Aw… Now I feel like crap

Why D:[/quote]  
I don’t know why… Exactly.

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