DooM

[hazerddex]

can we get some of the DOOM weapons and armor?

[BBEG]

I just wanted to say it’d be cool if you added some stuff from the doom rougelike.

[pisskop]

k

Got the Doomrl. How do make ascii graphics instead of tileset?

Ive played it before, no suprises, I prefered techies with a shotgun and a rocket.

Ive got to finish testing on these birds in the mod, then I pinkie promise Ill do a jumpsuit/megaarmor thing. And some guns. For the bfg, Ive got the idea to

Make it a bouncing explosion powered by plasma. Can you imagine a grenade epicentered at each monster exploding simulantiously? uunnnhhhh, so good

other guns? welll, Im not going to do all of them, since many ingame guns suffice. No brutaldoom guns or other mod guns either, unless theres a good reason for them. Reasons like OP, fun, and unique are mehish. A big part of this mod is trying to balance the razorsedge grimdark of cdda with the power fantasy of doom.
I know that theres a division about if cdda should be all pain and survival or power fantasy, and I (hope I) have made it both. fun guns and armors and drugs and hard combat. Ascension to godhood is useless without a challenge to measure it by.

[spoiler=guns?]
-plasma gun. A high capacity automatic plasma gun
-Revenant rockets. Already in. Try butchering a revenant sometime.
-3 round rocket launcher? as in 3 at a time, 6 total
-a large capacity shotgun? with better range and more dispersion to make up for that. shame we can have multipellet shotgun bullets
-chaingun? but why? chaingun, doom3 weak machinegun chaingun.
-supershotgun, ofc, dont know if I can get it to fire both rounds at once, like a charged shot or something though.

[spoiler]

[Skeptopotamus]

Just installed the mod and I’m excited to see whats in store! I’m getting this error message at start-up

[tt]DEBUG: Error loading data from json: data/mods//Doom_Mod/pk_critter_doom.json: line 32:9: tried to start array, but found ‘{’, not ‘[’
“death_function”:[“Normal”],
“special_attacks”:[[LUNGE", 40],
{
^
“type” : “leap”,
“cooldown” : 25,[/tt]

Is this a fatal error? Is the mod still going to work despite this?

I’ve roamed around the world a bit (seen one city in its entirety, explored a good deal of wilderness) and I haven’t seen any demons or demonic structures. How common are demons in this mod, and do they only spawn near structures?

[pisskop]

Yea, it appears that theyve changed the structure of the special attack?

It shouldnt be fatal, but I need to fix it up.

[pisskop]

[quote=“pisskop, post:346, topic:11323”]idgi

Ive updated to the latest and my version runs fine.

Here it is again, this is my version im literally playing on the latest experimental version right now with.

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[pisskop]

I started on these. Suprised at how op survivor gear is; I usually blacklist them so theyre newish to me all the time I see them.
fun story, I made an undersuit that paled in comparison to survivor crap and I thought it was fair until I compared them side to side.

[pisskop]

omg, its a doomguy scenerio

-> I give into you, Doom Underlayer suit and Doom exoskeletal powered armor!

These are added to all spawns where the green armor can spawn, and provide various benefits (i hope) over using the default stuff. note that the powered armor is technically an artifact that activates on wearing, and that the powered version and unpowered version are two different artifacts with different powers (activated one is better). The underlay is a bodysuit that protects from radiation. Like a wetsuit, if you will. But spacier.

This update also includes Doomguy starting scenerio Its been tested to work, so far as spawns go. You may actually get a static npc to spawn with you if you have them on, but you start with a full set of doom armor, 40 shells, 30 .45 bullets, a knife, a holster and drop leg pouches, a flashlight, a medkit, berserker stims, and 2 guns for the ammo to fit into. The guns are standin. Maybe the pistol isnt, idk if I should be making a doompistol?

You can start in any one of the doom structures, but by default its the prison of the Hell Citadel. You may have to regen the world a few times if it doesnt spark.

The doomguy start is called “the last marine” and the profession can be taken alone without the doom_X start, but cost 10 points for the guns and skills (2 guns, 1 shotgun, 1 dodge, 1 firstaid) and traits (psycho, Terrifying).

Speaking of, Ive buffed the number of allowed hell_X structures in an effort to make them spawn. How occurrences work is, it seems, that each max occurrence allows a ‘chance’ for the item to spawn. Each guaranteed is, well, guaranteed to produce one.

[pisskop]

Ive done each start for doomguy.

All of them are doable. with the possible exception of doomlabs, since you may not be able to escape if you lack an explosive or a labcard. you know, like normal lab starts.

So I gotta tweak some of the drops of critters to allow more lab card or maybe ensure an explosive can spawn? idk. But Ive done doomlab a few times now, its dicey to get out. the hell castle is too, to be frank.

Ive been bugtesting the doomlab while there. Treadmills in changing rooms, pinball machine outside the bathrooms, its a madhouse i say!

But, for all that, the doomlab is most easily the most bang for your buck. Robots, turrets, demons, maybe ants, and blobs/zombies. A whole mess of things to murder.

And, Ive loosened up on early game spawning for mid-high tier doom monsters. Its a balancing act, it is. If I allow everything to spawn early early game is too hard for most survivors. If I dont then you cant find a challenge if you are a well equipped survivor.

[Profugo_Barbatus]

[quote=“pisskop, post:98, topic:11486”]Ive done each start for doomguy.

All of them are doable. with the possible exception of doomlabs, since you may not be able to escape if you lack an explosive or a labcard. you know, like normal lab starts.

So I gotta tweak some of the drops of critters to allow more lab card or maybe ensure an explosive can spawn? idk. But Ive done doomlab a few times now, its dicey to get out. the hell castle is too, to be frank.

Ive been bugtesting the doomlab while there. Treadmills in changing rooms, pinball machine outside the bathrooms, its a madhouse i say!

But, for all that, the doomlab is most easily the most bang for your buck. Robots, turrets, demons, maybe ants, and blobs/zombies. A whole mess of things to murder.

And, Ive loosened up on early game spawning for mid-high tier doom monsters. Its a balancing act, it is. If I allow everything to spawn early early game is too hard for most survivors. If I dont then you cant find a challenge if you are a well equipped survivor.[/quote]

If you want to ensure the player can escape a lab scenario, you could consider dropping the shotgun in favor of spawning the Doomguy with some sort of explosive device that could help him escape. He only usually starts the games with a handgun anyhow, and it wouldn’t be beyond the realm of reason for a space marine to bring something that goes boom with him.

[pisskop]

Well, ive upped the spawning of explosives in the crates on the ground floor for the afflicted starts. there is a 40% chance of being locked in a doomlab. 2/5 of the starts are locked.

I plan to override those guns with more doomy guns, but for now the shotgun allows you not to get murderated by imps swarming over you.

• I can remove the shotgun depending how how well the doomy one plays.

Ive allowed the mid tier demons to spawn on game start, but its a delicate balance, as Ive mentioned before.

Ive fixed the labs ups some, and Im adding things to the game such as a swat shield. Its all

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here

Plus fixed whatever the new linter is on about.

[pisskop]

Looking into ‘realistic’ ways to make large capacity (shot)guns. Because no reloading is fantasy.

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Are you going to make another KSG?

[pisskop]

im gonna make a 410 lever one that can fire 40s. its gonna e weaker than a shotgun but more versatile. 410s are an interesting idea especially for cdda. the ammo will have to be interchangable with a revolver though

then, i think a regular drummag one or maybehope a mag for one. focusing on quantity of dakka over damage.

supershotgun is maybe gonna be a 4 chambered gun with 2 auto because screw reloading a gun like that in cdda.

[pisskop]

A shotgun contains 8 shells when picked up (16 shells on the "I'm too young to die" and "Nightmare!" skill levels). Shotguns looted from the corpses of shotgun wielding zombies contain 4 shells (8 on ITYTD and NM) and, unlike pre-existing shotguns, disappear when crushed beneath doors or moving ceilings.

We're going with 12 on the grounds that babies like to be split.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_37 <-- according to the wikia this was the inspiration for the shotgun that inspired the doomshotgun.

On most models up to 1975, holding the trigger down allows the gun to fire the instant a new round is cycled into the chamber without requiring the trigger to be released, a process known as slamfire. Otherwise, the model 37 operates in much the same way as other pump-action shotguns.

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Guess what Ima do with that knowledge? Yup, 2 versions of the gun.

Here we go. Its range is better than most shotguns, it holds 12 rounds, and it can slamfire as a feature. It hit a hell baron for 56 damage at 9 tiles away. But then again it also hit a lost soul at that same distance for 1 damage. Guess its about managing recoil and dispersion.

Also, look what I found just laying around in a pit of corpses. the mods rough equivalent of megaarmor.

[pisskop]

k.

Well, there are two versions of the shotgun. one is a shotgun with range. One has a burst mode. You can start with the weaker of the two, which does have more range anyway.

Upped the painkiller on the beserker pack, and granted the powered marine exoskeleton some initial charge to make it usable from get.

[pisskop]

1 Shot.
242/258 kills.

[TheFlame52]

What the hell? Is that the BFG?

[pisskop]

pre prototype bfg. too grandiose.

the current prototype now does less damage but more explosive damage.

it does 35direct damage with 20 piercing, subject to skill bonuses and headshots. it bounces from target to target, flowing plasma (minor heat dam) and dropping 1 copy of its ammo at each target.

Each ‘bfg ammo’ dropped at the foot of each monster hit will emit corrosive radioactive gas, more plasma, and has a 15℅ chance to rip a medium sized hole in reality. after 2 ‘turns’ (essentially 0-1 combat turn) it turns into a new item that explodes for 60 power and 4 shrapnel.

shrapnel has a random vector and can 1shot a PC without armor.

this can easily deal hundreds of damage to a target. ive seen over 100 damage dealt by the shot alone. but 50-80 is average for a brute.

so yes. i think a hulk could survive it. but the more clustered the enemy is the more damage it does

[Altruis_Saintfire]

Uhh Doom 2016 praetor suit?