# Do zombies become stronger over time?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [May 21, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118 "2019-05-21T03:23:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![duhuh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/duhuh/32/5686_2.png) [@duhuh](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duhuh)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/1 "2019-05-21T03:23:00Z")

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Are we all zombie food in the end?

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/2 "2019-05-21T03:38:51Z")

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Lots of them evolve into tougher zombie types over time. So pretty much yes they do.

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**Author:** ![duhuh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/duhuh/32/5686_2.png) [@duhuh](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duhuh)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/3 "2019-05-21T03:39:54Z")

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I thought only zombie master can make zombies evolve.

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/4 "2019-05-21T03:42:02Z")

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Nope, they just rapidly evolve the nearby zombies. By winter you’ll see a lot more hulks, acidic, glowing boomers and other such advanced forms without ever having seen a zombie master.

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**Author:** ![TheMurderUnicorn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/themurderunicorn/32/5706_2.png) [@TheMurderUnicorn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMurderUnicorn)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/5 "2019-05-21T04:18:29Z")

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Oops, just posted a similar response in the other thread.

Yes, zombies have a chance to evolve over time. I’m not 100% on the new evolution system, but it used to be that there was a list they could evolve into (thereby giving them a chance to evolve into basically the same creature, negating evolution) after a certain amount of time has passed.

Most creatures won’t evolve for quite a few weeks. You’ll start to notice tougher zombies around autumn/winter in the first year. And any of the scenarios that start you in year 2 often end up having a lot of hulks/corrosive/skeletal juggernauts pretty quick.

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**Author:** ![Stevepunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stevepunk/32/6014_2.png) [@Stevepunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Stevepunk)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/6 "2019-05-22T20:49:05Z")

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> [@TheMurderUnicorn](#):
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> And any of the scenarios that start you in year 2 often end up having a lot of hulks/corrosive/skeletal juggernauts pretty quick.

I did a LMOE start and opened my front door to a Kevlar armoured z9, grabbers, boomers, etc and a skeletal juggernaut.

I was forced to run into the woods to build a pine bough bed and basic shelter. Which I then burnt down because of my shallow fire pit.

Honestly, this game is the best. Except for finding heavy sticks or 2/4s in the wilderness prior to unlocking the stone axe; that’s a bitch.

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**Author:** ![TooDAMNMuch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@TooDAMNMuch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TooDAMNMuch)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/7 "2019-05-22T20:56:12Z")

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i’ve had worse starts, i had one where a chicken walker was aggro’d at me inside the regular old shelter and i died on my first turn, literally.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/8 "2019-05-23T18:20:48Z")

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> [@Stevepunk](#):
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> Except for finding heavy sticks or 2/4s in the wilderness prior to unlocking the stone axe; that’s a bitch.

Smash young trees and then snap the resulting long sticks in half for two heavy sticks.

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**Author:** ![Stevepunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stevepunk/32/6014_2.png) [@Stevepunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Stevepunk)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-zombies-become-stronger-over-time/20118/9 "2019-05-23T21:36:33Z")

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> [@Mantar](#):
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> snap long sticks in half for two heavy sticks.

Thanks! I didn’t know this was possible. I was relying on finding them lying on the ground or through foraging.