Do Underbarrel Flashlights Exist?

Packbat · 2015-01-29T05:42:03.000Z

[quote=“Hibou, post:26, topic:8732”][snip]

However, I remember from a topic way back that the devs decided not to include dual wielding because of some kind of complication. Correct me if I’m wrong, that’s from the top of my head.[/quote]
I don’t know what the devs have said, but I’ve dual-wielded 9-mm pistols before (I have gun-nut friends). As much as I love Left 4 Dead, it’s basically a complete waste of bullets to attempt to fire two guns at once. If players want to have a gun in each hand, a “fight with off-hand weapon” option in the Fighting Style menu would be the sensible choice.

Zaweri_Runewright · 2015-01-29T05:49:20.000Z

Packbat:

However, I remember from a topic way back that the devs decided not to include dual wielding because of some kind of complication. Correct me if I’m wrong, that’s from the top of my head.

I don’t know what the devs have said, but I’ve dual-wielded 9-mm pistols before (I have gun-nut friends). As much as I love Left 4 Dead, it’s basically a complete waste of bullets to attempt to fire two guns at once. If players want to have a gun in each hand, a “fight with off-hand weapon” option in the Fighting Style menu would be the sensible choice.
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Two weapons are useless to use in both hands. Unless you are ambidextrous.

system · 2015-01-29T05:57:59.000Z

Barhandar · 2015-01-29T06:02:24.000Z

Zaweri Runewright:

Two weapons are useless to use in both hands. Unless you are ambidextrous.

Only if they’re two equal weapons. Rapier + dagger, as demonstrated by Rookie’s pic, doesn’t require ambidexterity.

Packbat:

I don’t know what the devs have said, but I’ve dual-wielded 9-mm pistols before (I have gun-nut friends). As much as I love Left 4 Dead, it’s basically a complete waste of bullets to attempt to fire two guns at once. If players want to have a gun in each hand, a “fight with off-hand weapon” option in the Fighting Style menu would be the sensible choice.

AFAIK, trained spec ops who have to use two pistols aim down the sights of one and provide suppressive fire in the same general direction with the other.

Hibou · 2015-01-29T14:37:27.000Z

I’m back from my long journey to the search bar, and this was discussed at length in a previous thread. The consensus appeared to be that dual wielding COULD work with melee weapons, like a dagger and a sword, but with firearms it’s just silly. However, wielding something in your off-hand, to be used on its own, is more feasible and seemed to be supported by the devs.

AllisonW · 2015-01-29T14:54:56.000Z

Actually, dual-wielding pistols or small SMGs would work just fine–better than dual-wielding melee weapons, that’s for sure. Unless this is a code thing, in which case pretend I kept my stupid mouth shut.

Hibou · 2015-01-29T15:03:31.000Z

AllisonW:

Actually, dual-wielding pistols or small SMGs would work just fine–better than dual-wielding melee weapons, that’s for sure. Unless this is a code thing, in which case pretend I kept my stupid mouth shut.

If by dual-wielding, you mean aim one, shoot, aim the other, shoot, then sure. However, sustained fire with both hands results in remarkably reduced accuracy.

Flashlight_Hoarder · 2015-01-29T15:06:02.000Z

Rhodri:

Let’s go a step further. We need flashlight launchers with underbarrel flashlights, rail flashlights, flashlight grip, and flashlight sights. And the flashlight launcher also functions as a flashlight.

And I just had a Seizure!

Packbat · 2015-01-29T19:42:54.000Z

Barhandar:

[quote=“Zaweri Runewright, post:28, topic:8732”]Two weapons are useless to use in both hands. Unless you are ambidextrous.

Only if they’re two equal weapons. Rapier + dagger, as demonstrated by Rookie’s pic, doesn’t require ambidexterity.[/quote]
So: on-hand weapon acts as a one-handed weapon, off-hand weapon procs some special abilities (Block, Parry, Quick Strike) but otherwise does nothing?

Barhandar:

[quote=“Packbat, post:27, topic:8732”]I don’t know what the devs have said, but I’ve dual-wielded 9-mm pistols before (I have gun-nut friends). As much as I love Left 4 Dead, it’s basically a complete waste of bullets to attempt to fire two guns at once. If players want to have a gun in each hand, a “fight with off-hand weapon” option in the Fighting Style menu would be the sensible choice.

AFAIK, trained spec ops who have to use two pistols aim down the sights of one and provide suppressive fire in the same general direction with the other.[/quote]
Interesting! That could be another Fighting Style option, I think - although I don’t believe suppressive fire has any game effect so far.

Barhandar · 2015-01-29T19:59:18.000Z

Packbat:

Interesting! That could be another Fighting Style option, I think - although I don’t believe suppressive fire has any game effect so far.

Zombies don’t react to being shot much, so it’d be a waste of bullets.

Valpo · 2015-01-29T20:09:31.000Z

Why don t tankbots have flashlights?

Datanazush · 2015-01-29T20:11:45.000Z

Actually, suppressive fire has one hell of an effect, shoot a mob of zombies and it doesn’t matter if you miss, you’re cutting something down.

Caconym · 2015-01-29T20:30:28.000Z

Valpo:

Why don t tankbots have flashlights?

OP took them all…

Flashlight_Hoarder · 2015-01-29T20:30:47.000Z

Actually, suppressive fire has one hell of an effect, shoot a mob of zombies and it doesn't matter if you miss, you're cutting something down.

I agree, But I prefer good ol’ fashioned rock throwing+Ma Trusty Broadsword.

Caconym:

[quote=“Valpo, post:37, topic:8732”]Why don t tankbots have flashlights?

OP took them all…[/quote]

You Saw Nothing…

iceball3 · 2015-01-30T00:28:07.000Z

Dual wielding SMGs could have use if you decide bullet saturation is more important than accuracy. To elaborate, jabberwock or hulk at near point blank.
Speaking of which, larger enemies should be more easy to hit in regards of the dispersion arc-second rules.

Hibou · 2015-01-30T01:03:33.000Z

iceball3:

Speaking of which, larger enemies should be more easy to hit in regards of the dispersion arc-second rules.

I think they already are; it’s why squirrels and rats are so hard to hit. It also makes you a bit harder to hit when up against hulks.

Catfoodbob · 2015-01-30T02:00:02.000Z

Hibou:

[quote=“iceball3, post:41, topic:8732”]Speaking of which, larger enemies should be more easy to hit in regards of the dispersion arc-second rules.

I think they already are; it’s why squirrels and rats are so hard to hit. It also makes you a bit harder to hit when up against hulks.[/quote]

get the martial arts style that gives you infinit doges when you attack, get 20 dodge skill, a fluffy tail, and uncanny dodge cbm, then fight a hulk, or read a nice book standin next to them

Necrucifer · 2015-01-30T21:22:58.000Z

Rhodri:

Let’s go a step further. We need flashlight launchers with underbarrel flashlights, rail flashlights, flashlight grip, and flashlight sights. And the flashlight launcher also functions as a flashlight.

The flashlight launcher would also be able to launch m203 flares as a bonus!!! lol

Flashlight_Hoarder · 2015-01-30T21:56:20.000Z

Such an awesome concept.

Caconym · 2015-01-30T22:01:16.000Z

Who needs under barrel flashlights when you can have IN barrel ones.