# Do people play with or without static and/or random NPCs?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [November 15, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897 "2014-11-15T13:36:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Dark\_Star](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dark_star/32/267_2.png) [@Dark\_Star](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dark_Star)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/21 "2014-11-16T19:26:52Z")

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> [@StopSignal](#):
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> I had this run with no monters, and only NPCs (which I edited to make them hostile) it was pretty fun, running around evading bullets and being robbed, and still not being able to find a gun. The thing with this playstile is to make the item spawn almost inexistant, which I did not so it’s not that hard and fun. Looting though.

Bloody hell! O\_\_O i think that i couldn’t survive in your world,it’s really hard xD

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**Author:** ![latogato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/22 "2014-11-16T19:42:03Z")

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Mostly i turn them off. The game is relaxing without sudden (means npc) challenge. Sometimes i turn them on, but hostile npcs can be a pain, because they have a lot of hp and if they have a better gun… Some of them has a flamethower and set everything on fire. Also allied npcs are stupid, accidently shot each other or me.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/23 "2014-11-16T21:10:08Z")

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There should e a way to poder their hp. You need a lot of bullets to take them down and it’s not fair.

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/24 "2014-11-16T22:28:16Z")

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[quote=“StopSignal, post:23, topic:7897”]There should e a way to poder their hp. You need a lot of bullets to take them down and it’s not fair.[/quote]It depends on what they’re wearing. NPC wearing armor = harder to kill.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/25 "2014-11-16T22:32:33Z")

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Yeah, I know, but sometimes it is really unrealistic. You need a lot of bullets to kill them!

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**Author:** ![Loendal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f08c70/32.png) [@Loendal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Loendal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/26 "2014-11-16T22:58:01Z")

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> [@Chaz](#):
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> I play with NPCs of all kinds switched off. Initially this was because of bugginess, but even after most of the issues were fixed, I stuck with it, because I like to play as the last (moth)man on earth, as it were. Of course, this comes with challenges of its own, like the time a bunch of police robots apprehended me and slapped cuffs on me (I let myself be arrested, thinking maybe something cool would happen like I’d get dragged somewhere, but I just got left alone, then got zapped repeatedly as I tried to walk around. The bots were waiting for policemen who would probably never arrive.)

I let myself be arrested once as well, for exactly the same reason 🙂 Wound up just sitting around waiting for something to happen, then I think the cop bots started shooting one another and/or some NPC’s in the vicinity.

As a side note:

If you’re dressed as a Cop, the Eyebots won’t call in the robots, despite the alarm you just set off crowbaring into that building over there… I don’t know if it’s the badge or the shirt that makes them leave you alone though.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/27 "2014-11-16T23:02:34Z")

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> [@Loendal](#):
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> [quote=“Chaz, post:17, topic:7897”]I play with NPCs of all kinds switched off. Initially this was because of bugginess, but even after most of the issues were fixed, I stuck with it, because I like to play as the last (moth)man on earth, as it were. Of course, this comes with challenges of its own, like the time a bunch of police robots apprehended me and slapped cuffs on me (I let myself be arrested, thinking maybe something cool would happen like I’d get dragged somewhere, but I just got left alone, then got zapped repeatedly as I tried to walk around. The bots were waiting for policemen who would probably never arrive.)

I let myself be arrested once as well, for exactly the same reason 🙂 Wound up just sitting around waiting for something to happen, then I think the cop bots started shooting one another and/or some NPC’s in the vicinity.

As a side note:

If you’re dressed as a Cop, the Eyebots won’t call in the robots, despite the alarm you just set off crowbaring into that building over there… I don’t know if it’s the badge or the shirt that makes them leave you alone though.

Hmm. Were you _really_ a Cop, or just dressed as one?

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**Author:** ![Loendal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f08c70/32.png) [@Loendal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Loendal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/28 "2014-11-16T23:08:03Z")

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Really a Cop, though I assumed it was the outfit.

I suppose there could be an Officer database that they pulled info from for Officer insert-name-here. That’s definately alluded to in the message given

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/29 "2014-11-17T00:48:15Z")

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[quote=“Loendal, post:28, topic:7897”]Really a Cop, though I assumed it was the outfit.

I suppose there could be an Officer database that they pulled info from for Officer insert-name-here. That’s definately alluded to in the message given[/quote]Oh SWEET! definitely gives a reason to choose cop as a profession!

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**Author:** ![IcedPee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/icedpee/32/259_2.png) [@IcedPee](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/IcedPee)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/30 "2014-11-17T01:05:19Z")

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> [@KA101](#):
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> [quote=“Loendal, post:26, topic:7897”][quote=“Chaz, post:17, topic:7897”]I play with NPCs of all kinds switched off. Initially this was because of bugginess, but even after most of the issues were fixed, I stuck with it, because I like to play as the last (moth)man on earth, as it were. Of course, this comes with challenges of its own, like the time a bunch of police robots apprehended me and slapped cuffs on me (I let myself be arrested, thinking maybe something cool would happen like I’d get dragged somewhere, but I just got left alone, then got zapped repeatedly as I tried to walk around. The bots were waiting for policemen who would probably never arrive.)

I let myself be arrested once as well, for exactly the same reason 🙂 Wound up just sitting around waiting for something to happen, then I think the cop bots started shooting one another and/or some NPC’s in the vicinity.

As a side note:

If you’re dressed as a Cop, the Eyebots won’t call in the robots, despite the alarm you just set off crowbaring into that building over there… I don’t know if it’s the badge or the shirt that makes them leave you alone though.

Hmm. Were you _really_ a Cop, or just dressed as one?[/quote]

Wait, that’s a feature? Cops, or people dressed as cops, are above the law even if they’ve been detected breaking and entering?

The future New England is more corrupt than I thought.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/31 "2014-11-17T01:24:53Z")

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> [@IcedPee](#):
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> [quote=“KA101, post:27, topic:7897”][quote=“Loendal, post:26, topic:7897”][quote=“Chaz, post:17, topic:7897”]I play with NPCs of all kinds switched off. Initially this was because of bugginess, but even after most of the issues were fixed, I stuck with it, because I like to play as the last (moth)man on earth, as it were. Of course, this comes with challenges of its own, like the time a bunch of police robots apprehended me and slapped cuffs on me (I let myself be arrested, thinking maybe something cool would happen like I’d get dragged somewhere, but I just got left alone, then got zapped repeatedly as I tried to walk around. The bots were waiting for policemen who would probably never arrive.)

I let myself be arrested once as well, for exactly the same reason 🙂 Wound up just sitting around waiting for something to happen, then I think the cop bots started shooting one another and/or some NPC’s in the vicinity.

As a side note:

If you’re dressed as a Cop, the Eyebots won’t call in the robots, despite the alarm you just set off crowbaring into that building over there… I don’t know if it’s the badge or the shirt that makes them leave you alone though.

Hmm. Were you _really_ a Cop, or just dressed as one?[/quote]

Wait, that’s a feature? Cops, or people dressed as cops, are above the law even if they’ve been detected breaking and entering?

The future New England is more corrupt than I thought.[/quote]

Nope, they have _not_ been detected breaking and entering gaining access to the location. The alarm went off, an eyebot has responded, and found that there’s a human officer already on the scene. It happens from time to time, so no point in punishing diligent police work.

If Internal Affairs noticed that a particular officer was so dedicated as to beat the eyebot on a regular basis, though, there might be a problem. More so if folks manage to film the officer actually doing the vandalism. Unfortunately there aren’t civilians with cell-phone cameras handy to watch the watchers.

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/32 "2014-11-17T01:53:34Z")

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So will the cop bots and/or riot control bots help defend the player cop or do they not even appear?

EDIT: Also, if this works for cops, why not have the same thing work with military personel? Tankbots, chickenwalkers, etc. would be friendly to players with such professions as National Guard, Special Operator, etc.

And have these professions cost MANY more points than they already do.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/33 "2014-11-17T02:02:51Z")

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[quote=“HunterAlpha1, post:32, topic:7897”]So will the cop bots and/or riot control bots help defend the player cop or do they not even appear?

EDIT: Also, if this works for cops, why not have the same thing work with military personel? Tankbots, chickenwalkers, etc. would be friendly to players with such professions as National Guard, Special Operator, etc.

And have these professions cost MANY more points than they already do.[/quote]

No, if a cop strays and the eyebot doesn’t recognize xem, the enforcement arm is likely to dispense justice to the cop, just as they did to the operators. Eyebots are not designed to employ force and were therefore not included in the Botched Reprogramming.

Same problem for military personnel, and since they’re not specifically carrying personal identifiers like police do (or at least _you_ aren’t…yet…maybe you might be able to link up and get one at some point?) the bots don’t have anything to tell them you’re friendly.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-people-play-with-or-without-static-and-or-random-npcs/7897/34 "2014-11-17T13:06:53Z")

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just started with regular scenario 0.1 item spawn 2.5 enemy spawn and both static and random npcs on… day one an npc dies due to stupidity … drops pneumatik bolt driver… too easy… i ll restart this time without random npcs. They just carry too much good stuff for this setting for me.

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