# Do coffee trees give coffee powder?

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**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [May 9, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013 "2019-05-09T04:04:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![duhuh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/duhuh/32/5686_2.png) [@duhuh](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duhuh)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/1 "2019-05-09T04:04:25Z")

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I found 2 coffee trees at a coffee shop. Can I get new coffee powder from the tree?

Or, I have to wait for a cat to eat the coffee beans?

> **[Kopi luwak](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak)**
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> Kopi luwak (Indonesian pronunciation: \[ˈkopi ˈlu.aʔ\]), or civet coffee, is coffee that includes partially digested coffee cherries, eaten and defecated by the Asian palm civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus). Fermentation occurs as the cherries pass through a civet's intestines, and after being defecated with other fecal matter, they are collected.
> Producers of the coffee beans argue that the process may improve coffee through two mechanisms, selection – civets choosing to eat only certain cherri...

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**Author:** ![Orange01](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/orange01/32/2469_2.png) [@Orange01](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Orange01)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/2 "2019-05-09T04:23:35Z")

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You can harvest coffee beans and tea leaves from coffee trees. Forgot which season. Then you need to roast them, and grind into a powder. I found a forest patch with like 20 trees and was set for life. Atomic coffee\>sleep.

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/3 "2019-05-10T01:09:12Z")

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As Orange says. The Coffee Trees in game are probably some variant of the Kentucky Coffee Tree. So you’d have to roast the beans and then grind them up.

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**Author:** ![Valiant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valiant/32/4788_2.png) [@Valiant](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valiant)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/4 "2019-05-10T19:10:16Z")

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In fact, the coffee pods harvested from these coffee trees can’t be used to make coffee powder no more.

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/5 "2019-05-10T22:20:24Z")

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I remember them _not_ being able to be used for that. I thought it was changed so they could be.

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**Author:** ![TheMurderUnicorn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/themurderunicorn/32/5706_2.png) [@TheMurderUnicorn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMurderUnicorn)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/6 "2019-05-10T23:13:25Z")

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My understanding is that pods are not beans. I’m not sure which item we’re talking about here. Pods can be brewed into a beverage, I think, but it isn’t ‘coffee’.

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/27232>

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/28422>

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/7 "2019-05-11T02:35:09Z")

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Do the trees at least still yield tea leaves?

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/8 "2019-05-11T04:29:45Z")

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So the gist is basically make it decaf coffee since that doesn’t exist in the game and the Kentucky coffeetree beans don’t contain any caffeine. Plus we don’t have decaf coffee in game iirc so it still has some niche.

So the path I’m suggesting is basically a recipe string like this:  
Pick pods from tree  
_Roast Decaf beans_  
_Grind decaf coffee powder from decaf coffee beans_  
_Brew decaf coffee_

Just remove the stimulant effects from the roasted beans and finished coffee. Keep enjoyability, quench, and all that the same and that should satisfy everyone I think.

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**Author:** ![anothersimulacrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/anothersimulacrum/32/10770_2.png) [@anothersimulacrum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anothersimulacrum)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/9 "2019-05-11T04:44:51Z")

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@Esther Is adding a recipe for this - [PR](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/30397)

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**Author:** ![Esther](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/esther/32/5743_2.png) [@Esther](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Esther)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 6:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/10 "2019-05-11T06:50:34Z")

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That’s me, yeh. It’s not actually _coffee_ since it has no caffeine (it won’t keep you awake), but it’s an acceptable substitute that’s still a mild stimulant, and it’ll feed any caffeine addiction you have since it’s a substitute, but won’t cause a new addiction.

Basically, coffee but not.

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/11 "2019-05-11T12:50:31Z")

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I appreciate the two calories. That’s dedication to black coffee knowledge.

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**Author:** ![Orange01](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/orange01/32/2469_2.png) [@Orange01](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Orange01)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/12 "2019-05-11T15:47:36Z")

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Whelp I guess I’ll just need to scavenge for my atomic coffee powder again. My survivor hasn’t slept for years due to the old way of being able to mass produce your own coffee powder. Not complaining, it is good for balance.

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**Author:** ![Esther](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/esther/32/5743_2.png) [@Esther](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Esther)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/13 "2019-05-11T17:54:04Z")

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Apparently the Kentucky coffeetree’s pods don’t actually have any caffeine in them, so it was a choice that had to be made. I \*was\* considering making some sort of watered-down coffee that was mostly the coffee substitute but with a little bit of powder/syrup added in so that it had a little bit of stim but conserved on materials. It’d be a logical thing to make in the apocalypse, but I’m also not sure of when someone would actually put it together.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/14 "2019-05-11T19:03:22Z")

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I would honestly drink it just for the somatic step of weaning off my caffeine addiction in the apocalypse. When I’m trying to tone down on my coffee intake I often drink hot spiced cider, just so I can have a mug and a hot drink in the morning.

In CDDA I’m sure the morale would make it worth it most of the time. What else are you gonna use all these coffee pods for anyways?

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/15 "2019-05-11T19:10:04Z")

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For throwing at the zombies from inside of a gun store, for example.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/16 "2019-05-11T19:21:29Z")

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Trading with gullible caffeine addicts for items that have actual value 😛

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/17 "2019-05-13T07:35:39Z")

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Just take heroin. The gift that keeps on giving

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/18 "2019-05-23T00:01:39Z")

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Anybody else see that elephant in the room? New England doesn’t have the weather for coffee tree nor tea bushes.

So unless someone knows how to grow such warm weather plants in cold climate region. They should be removed altogether. As such plants don’t grow around here.

Such plants grow in india and south american regions. Not NE.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/19 "2019-05-23T00:04:24Z")

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Copied from NotFuji on Github from the link I previously posted.

“The recipe was removed since coffee plants ( which do not grow in New England ) and coffeetrees ( which do ) are different things.”

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013/20 "2019-05-23T00:11:44Z")

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Well he is wrong.

> **[Kentucky coffeetree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_coffeetree)**
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> Gymnocladus canadensis Lam.
> The Kentucky coffeetree, Gymnocladus dioicus, is a tree in the subfamily Caesalpinioideae of the pea family Fabaceae, native to the Midwest and Upper South of North America. The seed may be roasted and used as a substitute for coffee beans; however, unroasted pods and seeds are toxic. The wood from the tree is used by cabinetmakers and carpenters.
> From 1976 to 1994, the Kentucky coffeetree was the state tree of Kentucky, after which the tulip poplar was returned to...

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