Disease comes back

TheZoneWizard · 2017-12-19T21:12:10.419Z

Mask wouldn’t unless the filtration level was enough to block the virus in the air…assuming it was airborne to begin with and not tactile.

Wash your hands? Wear Gloves? An interesting idea from this thread, no? =)

DeWolf · 2017-12-19T21:17:22.462Z

In real life of course not. However in this game I presume the gas masks you find are rated for chemical and biological defense.

TheZoneWizard · 2017-12-19T21:29:50.035Z

But why? There are many masks that are not rated for airborne diseases. Oddly enough you could use a standard 95 mask for cutting wood to help keep radioactive particles partially out of your lungs. Go figure -_-

PS-But not from contaminating your skin =P

pisskop · 2017-12-19T21:32:25.826Z

if you are using pks rebalancing mod than health can be lost via temp inbalance and monster attacks.

_k1 · 2017-12-20T02:42:04.032Z

Thanks for the advice and information!

I guess it’s winter! My survivor eats berry and then apple for the entirety of summer and autumn. He should be in good health.

It’s time to don the gas mask.

edit: royal jelly cures! Beakdog Wood River is going to put his mittens on those wiggling little bright bees…

vassock · 2017-12-30T23:09:05.463Z

How do you even get flu or other diseases like that? Those are person to person transmitted. Can they live on a dead body? I doubt it. If not, it shouldn’t even be possible to get sick like that except at the very beginning, like in the VBD start, which is an infection acquired prior to the cataclysm from human contact.

kuros · 2017-12-30T23:43:40.172Z

Well, your own body hosts a number of viruses that you’ve developed an immunity to. If you’re feeling sickly due to poor diet and subjecting yourself to extreme temperatures, than it is entirely possible to get sick from the viruses that are already on you.

druidniam · 2017-12-31T04:09:40.828Z

vassock:

How do you even get flu or other diseases like that? Those are person to person transmitted. Can they live on a dead body? I doubt it. If not, it shouldn’t even be possible to get sick like that except at the very beginning, like in the VBD start, which is an infection acquired prior to the cataclysm from human contact.

Spanish flu was actually airborne. Several flues over the centuries have mutated into an airborne virus. Usually any flu pandemic can be traced to an airborne version of one.

vassock · 2017-12-31T06:43:44.594Z

Yes, but that doesn’t mean it can indefinitely survive in the air. It still requires some proximity to a presumably living carrier. I doubt it can just live in the air for days and days, floating and waiting for someone to inhale it.

druidniam · 2017-12-31T20:11:15.758Z

vassock:

Yes, but that doesn’t mean it can indefinitely survive in the air. It still requires some proximity to a presumably living carrier. I doubt it can just live in the air for days and days, floating and waiting for someone to inhale it.

The mycus can, why not a mutated version of the flu as the result of all the radiation and space time rifts? Suspension of disbelief here.

tarburst98 · 2017-12-31T20:47:35.664Z

if a virus can survive for moment then it can survive basically forever. a virus has no biological processes so it will just sit and wait for something to inhale it.

BorkBorkGoesTheCode · 2017-12-31T20:58:42.054Z

The current state of disease mechanics seems to be due to undeveloped NPC AI and a lack of spare processing power for NPC-to-NPC-to-Player infections

vassock · 2017-12-31T21:16:05.987Z

Not according to this:
https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/how-long-do-bacteria-and-viruses-live-outside-the-body.aspx

druidniam · 2017-12-31T21:49:38.494Z

druidniam:

Suspension of disbelief here.

druidniam:

Suspension of disbelief here.

druidniam:

Suspension of disbelief here.

If I repeat it enough it might stick.

Edit: For those who don’t even know what the hell I’m talking about:

en.wikipedia.org

Suspension of disbelief

The term suspension of disbelief or willing suspension of disbelief has been defined as a willingness to suspend one's critical faculties and believe something surreal; sacrifice of realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment. The term was coined in 1817 by the poet and aesthetic philosopher Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who suggested that if a writer could infuse a "human interest and a semblance of truth" into a fantastic tale, the reader would suspend judgement concerning the implausibility of t Th...

vassock · 2018-01-01T01:03:07.193Z

Not sure what enjoyment there is in dealing with the flu in mid-late game. You just take some cough syrup. It really only has a major effect at the start, like in VBD, where it’s incidentally also realistic.

Mantar · 2018-01-01T21:48:46.427Z

You can’t just shout “suspension of disbelief” as an argument.

Also just because the mycus can do it doesn’t mean the flu would be able to as well. The flu is a terrestrial contagion, while the mycus is an invader from outside our universe. Its rules are totally different, and it’s easier to suspend disbelief with a strange thing from beyond than with something as mundane and familiar as the flu.

druidniam · 2018-01-01T22:15:50.542Z

It’s a video game. I can shout suspension of disbelief as a valid argument all day long. @kevin.granade? Is it unreasonable to presume among other things that a strain of flu can exist in the Cataverse that doesn’t adhere to anything the CDC says about know flu strains? Or is my argument (which is contrary to most my arguments on here since I advocate realism in engineering and mechanics) a bad call because real viruses should be accurately modeled in a video game about the zombie apocalypse from another dimension.

kevin.granade · 2018-01-01T22:35:26.419Z

The cold and flu in the game are officially symptoms of latent blob infection that every survivor has. When the players immune system weakens, symptoms start to appear.

druidniam · 2018-01-01T23:23:17.611Z

Nailed it. (With extra characters oh god Kevin make it so we can post shorter comments)

kevin.granade · 2018-01-02T00:01:43.873Z

Try to work with the system, instead of saying, “nailed it”, click on the icon.