# Diamond Ring
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [August 23, 2014, 8:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157 "2014-08-23T08:22:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2014, 8:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/1 "2014-08-23T08:22:43Z")
i found this item.
is it not the glasscutter on the finger - then i’m the Romen papa.
with it we may be silently open closed windows. yes with class chards, but silently!!! zombies not hear us.
what you say on it?
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### Author:  [@Snaaty](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Snaaty)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2014, 9:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/2 "2014-08-23T09:43:56Z")
I believe this is supposed to be a “wedding” ring.
Silently cutting windows open with that should be difficult, I suppose. Althogh I’ve never tried that before, so perhaps it is possible.
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### Author:  [@Scisco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Scisco)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2014, 10:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/3 "2014-08-23T10:18:35Z")
Shouldent it also require some kind of skill? Like cutting weapons 3 or like “stealth” (if they implement that stuff soon). If u dont have the skill the chans of something going wrong (breaking glas, setting off alarm etc) is way higher.
U also should need some kind of suction device, otherwise the glas would fall n break anyway.
I mean, just because u got a diamond ring dont make you a master thief.
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### Author:  [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2014, 10:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/4 "2014-08-23T10:50:35Z")
You can’t actually cut glass with a diamond ring, unless said ring is shaped like a blade. A typical diamond ring is deliberately designed to have no cutting point, and even if it did have a sharp point, there’s no way the point could cut deep enough into the glass to cut it without shattering it.
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### Author:  [@Black\_OPs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Black_OPs)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/5 "2014-08-24T00:20:31Z")
On the subject of sneaky stuff. I’m playing the experimental with z levels( Haven’t found any yet)
But I have a grappleing hook with rope in it how do I use it to climb up structures?
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/6 "2014-08-24T01:46:05Z")
[quote=“Black\_OPs, post:5, topic:7157”]On the subject of sneaky stuff. I’m playing the experimental with z levels( Haven’t found any yet)
But I have a grappleing hook with rope in it how do I use it to climb up structures?[/quote]
Motels and office towers have a second story if you use that mod.
Unfortunately, you can’t grapple up z-levels in the mod. That’s why the z-levels are a “mod” and not mainline.
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### Author:  [@Black\_OPs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Black_OPs)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/7 "2014-08-24T02:04:20Z")
Yea I know, just thought the hook was part of the mod maybe to scale walls. thx.
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### Author:  [@Scisco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Scisco)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2014, 8:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diamond-ring/7157/8 "2014-08-24T08:31:41Z")
> [@Solusphere](#):
>
> You can’t actually cut glass with a diamond ring, unless said ring is shaped like a blade. A typical diamond ring is deliberately designed to have no cutting point, and even if it did have a sharp point, there’s no way the point could cut deep enough into the glass to cut it without shattering it.
Hehe, i hadent really thought about it that far but it makes sense.