Deathmobile Weapons: How many is overkill?

[nameless_survivor]

Yeah thats where I found my fusion rifle, sans ammo. I always look for Gracken; for some reason they always spawn near corpse clusters, especially science or military ones. Not sure why.

[darktoes]

Your best bet is science labs, each one has a finale room with something special in it, and one of the possible finales has a laser rifle and pistol. Get a few of those and you’re in business. You can also find them knocking around in various places like dead scientists or anywhere that spawns rare items (there’s a very long list). As far as fusion/plasma is concerned, those both use ammunition so they’re really not worth bothering about, but you can find them in bank vaults, as well as various other places.

What you do want is the Fusion Arm CBM. With a certain lab report I forget the name of you can convert it into a fusion rifle that only uses power (basically a energy based rocket launcher. No good as a primary/vehicle weapon, but good fun) or a makeshift laser cannon which KICKS ASS.

[Rose]

I hate having to worry about ammo

Then make an avalanche cannon, why not? It’s enough to kill almost anyone. Why do you even need all those miniguns and stuff? Seriously, two avalanche cannons and a scorpion ballista for heavy targets should be enough for ANYTHING you might encounter.

Especially my solar panels.

Reinforce them.

I always look for Gracken; for some reason they always spawn near corpse clusters, especially science or military ones. Not sure why.

That’s a map special. Dead bodies of drug dealers/campers/footbal players and a gracken or two nearby. And an amoebic mold. That’s a thing like in Fallout.

With a certain lab report I forget the name of

This recipe can be found in the following books when electronics is at least the required level:
lab journal-Herrera (level 5)

[nameless_survivor]

Why do you even need all those miniguns and stuff

Well, again I’m still new to this game, and also just updated to the experimental version for the first time (played stable for a while to get used to it), and I wasn’t really sure what to expect, or what hordes of abominations I might run across. The National Guard Base was like right down the road from my spawn point practically, so I hadn’t explored too much by the time I found it. Since there is no kill quite like overkill, I decided to loot every deadly thing that wasn’t nailed down, followed by the nails and the stuff that WAS nailed down, and then stick them onto my brand new tank.

[nameless_survivor]

So far I’ve gotten pretty good performance out of the .50 cal, it splatters just about everything in one or two shots except brutes, isnt terribly ammo hungry on single fire mode, and is pretty damn accurate. At this point, I’m seriously considering stripping off the grenade launcher and miniguns. My biggest concern was not having them in the event I ran into something really awful (I’ve played Dwarf Fortress, and was half expecting something like the randomly generated Forgotten Beasts to be present) and figured having numerous individual weapons might provide an advantage if vehicle turret attacks were considered to occur simultaneously by the game.

[Rose]

Really. The minigun’s low auto (50) is useless. Most targets need 2-3 hits.

My biggest concern was not having them in the event I ran into something really awful

There’s nothing really awful, especially while you’re inside a tank. A scorpion ballista deals the solid 300+ hp blows that are enough to obliterate just about anything. In fact, only the skeleton juggernauts need 2 hits. (I haven’t met jabberwocks).

The main point is that yes, you can use .50 machine gun, but why would you? Ammo with real gunpowder is precious, and there are plenty of ways to kill things using no gunpowder at all. Slingshot cannon, avalanche cannon and scorpion ballista are my choice. There are also guns shooting nail, rebar and serrated disks. All these things are easy to make and replenishable.

[nameless_survivor]

I actually ran into a jabberwock outside my spawn shelter with my very first character, while playing on stable. He died messily when it burst through the door after I slammed it in his face. Rerolled a new character (this time one with a gun), somehow spawned in the EXACT SAME SHELTER, with the Jabberwock still inside. I actually killed it after playing ring around the rosie with the furniture. Took two clips of sniper ammo. I suspect the tank gun or hypervelocity driver would turn it into chunks. Unless its been beefed up since stable was last updated…

[Rose]

ring around the rosie

Well, you get the point. Get some non-combustion weapons and you’re safe and always have a lot of ammo. Just keep in mind that some types of ammo are easier to make than others when choosing the cannon.

Oh, and don’t put the turret above the block you can’t reach. So that you can reload it. But I guess you’ve figured it out (just in case)

[nameless_survivor]

Yeah, I’m not using that unless I have to. I’ve got 14 rounds for it though, so if I have to use them all up, something has probably gone horribly wrong and I’m about to die gloriously. Thats why I have the hypervelocity driver. Ammo for it is EASY to make, just tear up a couple road tiles for rebar. You mentioned the nail turrets, are they any good? Like the coilgun one?

[nameless_survivor]

Speaking of dying gloriously, in the event of my imminent demise, is there a way to set the mini-reactor to meltdown, or otherwise make my vehicle self destruct and take everything with me in an enormous (preferably nuclear) fireball?

[Rose]

You mentioned the nail turrets, are they any good? Like the coilgun one?

I dunno. They have low damage but high armor penetration which is quite useless, since most enemies are not exactly well armored. The nails take longer to produce, also. I don’t know about the ammo capacity, but the avalanche cannon has 250 round hoppers, which is a massive advantage.

[Theundyingcode]

No action you can take will ever be overkill. What you think of as “overkill” is nothing more than the enemy failing to live up to expectations. As phenomena created by the actions of the enemy you must not let it affect you less the enemy rise to the occasion.

[nameless_survivor]

True, but there is such a thing as being wasteful. Its not like I’m gonna just throw them away, but they might be better employed elsewhere. Maybe put the miniguns on remote control drones or something for clearing out lab turret rooms, purging ant hills, or securing underground in the National Guard Bases from those SCAR-L wielding murderbots. Was thinking of trying to make a foldable 1 tile vehicle with casters, a micromotor, storage battery, and drive by wire controls, and then mounting one of the miniguns or an M-60 on it. Not sure if it will still fold, but it might be worth trying.

[Trigon]

I’m with Rose on this. Scorpion ballista is my go to. I find the fusion blaster cannon/rifle to be solid for your average zed and it’s pretty easy to get compared to the rest of the laser weapons. Especially since I’m never going to install the damn thing on myself.

[nameless_survivor]

Yeah, having to give up an arm and being able to hold things isn’t worth it. I’d rather turn it into a rifle or lascannon. Shit, Samus Aran can take off her suit, why can’t the fusion blaster arm CBM have an integrated component you install, and an exterior component you can take on and off.

[Mantar]

Scorpion ballista

Is that from a mod? I’ve never seen one.

[Eastwardrope91]

I’ve seen the clips for it but haven’t seen a Batista.

[Rose]

Oh, yes. It’s from blazemod.

[Trigon]

Yeah, blazemod. But ballista are made of logs so it’s pretty easy to get plenty of ammo. Especially for the damage it does. And if you can make metal tipped ones then forget about it.

[Excel]

Yeah i seen Ballista’s ammo on the crafting table.

Never knew it was really giant arrow, thought it was just a rather big arrow that can be shoot from a bow.
(Nvm, i’m too dumb to see it’s a thread from two months ago lol)