Crazy idea about adding various USA states

[bostltch]

Another quick search said there are about 100 hospitals in Mass, and that was only including the major ones. So at the least, 100 spread out over 17000 km2. Not that it would be impossible, but you’d have to specifically try to memorize them, and the simple solution to that is just not to.

[TheZoneWizard]

When you consider it is only 190 miles wide and would take 3-4 hours in a straight line to traverse. The state isn’t as big as you folks who don’t live near it seem to think.

The average person could think of quite a few primary buildings. I wasn’t suggesting all of them. This is ignoring the corporate booboo money grab buildings. Nobody actually uses those. Thankfully >_>

[StopSignal]

this is some incredible work guys
it’s beautiful
i’m totally getting into the game again when this goes live!
question: if the light green dots are houses, will green dots that aren’t touching a road still spawn a house? That’d be weird.

Anyways, this is great.

[bostltch]

Well personally half of my family is from Mass (a small town called Holyoke) but that’s still 10,555 square miles and no that’s not as big as Texas or California but that’s still huge! You underestimate how big that is, there’s a lot of room there!

[kevin.granade]

if the light green dots are houses, will green dots that aren’t touching a road still spawn a house? That’d be weird.

That’s a major issue, there are a couple of fixes.
One is to take areas like that, throw out the existing roads and replace them with a grid of roads that fits how we do mapgen.
Another (and better one IMO) is to make house areas elastic, like by pushing the house away from the road and connecting it with a driveway, and or tacking on a “back yard” area.

[StopSignal]

hmm, that’s quite a good idea indeed, could end up quite organic looking!
will keep an eye on this, it all sounds neat.

[TheZoneWizard]

Seriously? Holyoke is considered rather large. The mall is 3 freakin stories lol

[TheZoneWizard]

The city areas have a sidewalk normally in residential parts anyway. The rural areas would normally have a small front yard with a medium back yard.

[Sanehatter]

The game could also make “residential areas” and freely dispose houses and roads on them, instead of marking each individual green dot.

[Melen]

Perhaps, and I don’t know code-wise how feasible this might be, but could there be a way to have a chance to “cross over” buildings into other areas? The way I’m picturing it, say you have a residential sector but there’s a maybe 3-5% chance one plot within the sector initializes as another sector type. That way you might find a hospital inside a residential zone or a church in a business sector, etc.

Again, I don’t know how easy that would be to code in, but it would mimic a lot of older cities, where a church/cathedral was build decades ago but as time marched ever forward, malls popped up around it, a bunch of land was bought up nearby and an airport was constructed. Now you have this structure that’s completely out of place simply because it stood the test of time.

[oger]

I’d really like to know how this was generated

https://cddamapalt.ralreegorganon.com/

And is it possible to make a tool that allows you to manually import GIS data based on how the map of Massachusetts was generated ?

[Zhilkin]

Yes, i is possible to make a tool (a set of tools actually) to import GIS data into Cataclysm.

That site was generated using GIS datasets from https://docs.digital.mass.gov/massgis and rendered with https://github.com/ralreegorganon/cddamap and some other custom made scripts.

Modified GIS data was put into database - https://www.dropbox.com/s/x316veh8ae8xkql/cataclysm-massachusetts.7z?dl=0. This database can be used to generate overmaps for Cataclysm using this Excel file with formulas - https://www.dropbox.com/s/91f19ywf5g1ovyn/MA_Test_V1.xlsx?dl=1 (output is in AW:AW column on data sheet should be put to your savegame - e.g. o.0.0 file).

[kevin.granade]

Be warned, if that’s the database I’m thinking of, it’s gigantic.

[D34DGuY]

@kevin.granade
That would be awesome, is there a playable PR using this map? I live right on the cape cod canal Would be cool to hole up in my neiborhood!

[kevin.granade]

There is not a PR, but I believe @ralreegorganon has a build lurking somewhere, IDK about playable though, it might be a map with no monster placement, and I think a bunch of the buildings probably won’t spawn anything.

[Zhilkin]

There is no PR yet, but you can create a savegame using MA map- see Crazy idea about adding various USA states.

[D34DGuY]

@kevin.granade @Zhilkin
Well without spawns and empty houses there is little gameplay I do hope that this is a continued effort to make this work though. Thanks for the heads up!

[Zhilkin]

Items and monsters are spawned there. There is just a little variety of overmap terrains used, but you can add more to Excel file and regenerate map with more buildings.

[D34DGuY]

Cool, thanks, i just might try that out just to see how it all looks…assuming i understand what to do, probably not though so ill likely be back to bother you after i fail to get it sorted out

[Hof1993]

Yeah i always imagine im in other places besides NE. I mean when you die is says lost among the billions. pretty sure there arent billions in New England. So its assumed to be world wide.