# Crash Confusion

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [May 27, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179 "2019-05-27T18:36:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/1 "2019-05-27T18:36:58Z")

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I’m getting a crash on load that indicates something about hydroponics already being loaded, and the crash log is at the link below. Would like to fix, as I would like to continue my save! Thanks.

[https://pastebin.com/3aC3d6N3](https://pastebin.com/3aC3d6N3)

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/2 "2019-05-28T07:19:39Z")

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Remove third-party hydroponics mod and use one provided with game.

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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/3 "2019-05-28T13:10:23Z")

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Hadn’t installed any third party mods, only using the ones that come with the game download. How do I remove one??

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/4 "2019-05-28T14:28:49Z")

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Highlight Hydroponics mod in Launcher and push Delete button. Then update (or reinstall) game so bundled Hydroponics mod will be reinstalled.

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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/5 "2019-05-28T14:53:19Z")

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I’m not using a launcher, I have not installed any third party mods. I am only using the base game executable and the mods it comes bundled with in its own folders. I guess I’ll try a fresh install.

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/6 "2019-05-28T15:07:03Z")

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That means you are updating your game incorrectly (i.e. copying new files with replace over existing files). Proper update is downloading new version archive, unpacking it and copying your `config` and `save` folders (plus any third party mods/soundpacks/tilesets you use) into new version folder.

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**Author:** ![Grimm\_Spector](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grimm_spector/32/5132_2.png) [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179/7 "2019-05-28T15:22:08Z")

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That may have been it, thank you.